my fight with diabetes mellitus type 2

krishna1980

Member
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5
My sugar levels have been high since pat 3 months.
Already on highest level of oral medicine so far ....going to beat u diabetes....i promise!! :x
 

daisy1

Legend
Messages
26,457
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Dislikes
Cruelty towards animals.
Hi krishna and welcome to the forum :)

Here is some information that we give to new members which will help you in your battle to look after yourself successfully. Ask all the questions you want and someone will come and help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

Daibell

Master
Messages
12,652
Type of diabetes
LADA
Treatment type
Insulin
Hi. If you are not already on a strict low-carb diet then do take note of the links and info in Daisy's post. If you are already having the right diet, then don't worry about the possible next move to insulin. I added insulin 6 weeks ago as I was also on max tablets. Once a day insulin is not a problem in any way and has helped my sugars a lot. I may need to add more injections thru the day which will be a nuisance but I'll cope and also have nice sugar levels!
 

krishna1980

Member
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hey thank you all...i feel i am at the right place now.
It was very frustrating when th[*]e GP s[*]ais ...ok ur readings Hb1ac is high so after 3 months i will start you on Insulin.
She didnt even raise a concern, not a single line of advice.....
when i came home i thought of taking appointment with diabetic nurse....in my heart i knew it will suck. :cry:

8.4% was my HbA1c level in march....Never any body nor my GP or the nurse asked me to go on low carb diet in recent years.
All they say eat salmon, tuna and salad...blah blah....I dont like all that and feel hungry after.
My diabetes was gestational and it never went away. I am 5"3 with 78 kg....so feel disgusting abt. myself.

Wont let it play with me anymore. Gonna desperately shed some pounds.
Gonna shop for brown pasta and rice now. Had special K with milk for breakfast.
Going to eat noodles with lots of mushroom in it for lunch.
I also now Keep fruit salad all the time in my fridge...snack on them when hungry :!:
 

ellecook79

Active Member
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Hi,

I really think that you need to think very careful;ly about what you are eating.

You need to restruct your carbohydrates.

Brown pasta, rice, noodles special k, fruit salad - this is all really high carb - you need to be eating more salad and vegatables and proteins and fats.

Tuna, salmon and salad are good recommendations for a diabetic - you do not need to feel hungry if you plan your meals properly.

Fruit although very healthy for non-diabetics and in small amounts for diabetics is absolutely full of sugar - you need to re-educate yourself about food or you won't get the control that you want.

Good luck! Read these boards - they are an absolute mine of information x
 

krishna1980

Member
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see .....i am glad i wrote what I eat .,....going really wrong :?

Will watch what I eat for breakfast......aoatmeal porridge will be my next choice of breakfast...
I thought i can eat brown rice, whole wheat pasta.

I also want to admit i sometimes miss my breakfast :oops:

I am a vegetarian...which carbohydrates do i eat...what can i eat for breakfast
not even fruits...then what :?:
 

krishna1980

Member
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Thank you...thank you very much...really appreciate...
I will do it properly from now on with this really kind and humbling support :)
 

Sid Bonkers

Well-Known Member
Messages
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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
Dislikes
Customer helplines that use recorded menus that promise to put me through to the right person but never do - and being ill. Oh, and did I mention customer helplines :)
Hi Krishna and welcome to the forum :D

Some fruits are high in carbs but most fruits can be eaten as long as you watch the portion sizes and test regularly before and after eating in order to determine what food and what portions sizes are OK for you.

One of the lowest carb breakfasts I can think of is half a grapefruit loaded with vitamins and only around 3 or 4 grams of carbs per half a grapefruit. I found it very helpful in aiding my weight loss.

Warning Grapefruits should not be eaten if you are taking certain Statins, check the drug information in your Statins if you take this drug.

If you dont take Statins then half a grapefruit is a great start to the day :thumbup:

If you test everything you eat in different size portions till you find the right size most things are OK to eat, there are very few food items that I do not eat, most white breads, fruit juices in any volume and pasta are a few of the things I have trouble eating but I find that I can eat most things as long as the portion size is adjusted down to a level that doesnt move my blood glucose (bg) levels too much.
 

mpe

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ellecook79 said:
Hi,

I really think that you need to think very careful;ly about what you are eating.

You need to restruct your carbohydrates.

Brown pasta, rice, noodles special k, fruit salad - this is all really high carb - you need to be eating more salad and vegatables and proteins and fats.

Tuna, salmon and salad are good recommendations for a diabetic - you do not need to feel hungry if you plan your meals properly.

Fruit although very healthy for non-diabetics and in small amounts for diabetics is absolutely full of sugar - you need to re-educate yourself about food or you won't get the control that you want.

But you won't get very far if you follow the NHS "eatwell plate". Whoever came up with this dosn't appear to understand chemistry. In simple terms everything in "Bread, rice, potatoes, pasta..." (yellow) along quite large fraction of "Fruit and
vegetables" (green) is also "Foods and drinks high in fat and/or sugar" (purple).

The Guideline Daily Amounts are also very carbohydrate heavy.

All carbohydrates are made out of sugars. What food labels call "sugars" are monosaccharides and disaccharides which are two sugar molecules joined together. What is called just "carbohydrates" or "complex carbohydrates" are polysaccharides, which are typically between 300 and 20,000 sugar molecules.

The human body can only adsorb monosaccharides. Thus the digestive system separates disaccharides and polysaccharides into monosaccharides. (Such digestion tends to be "all or nothing".)The process is called "hydrolysis" which is a chemical reaction with water.
100g of disaccharide will react with 5.3g of water to give 105.3g of monosaccharide(s).
100g of polysaccharide will react with approximatly 11.1g of water to give 111.1g of monosaccharide.
N.B. the number of sugars in a polysaccharide or even how "complex" is no kind of metric to how quickly it can be digested. Nor are disaccharides always digested before polysaccharides. Typically the last to be digested would be lactose, which is a disaccharide.

Note that "starch" is a mixture of two glucose polysaccharides. Which part of the reason "starchy foods" can differ in glycemic index.
 

Sunshine_Kisses

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Hi Krishna,
It is tricky if you're veggie - do you eat eggs? If you do they're a great breakfast, if not, yogurt and nuts with berries is another option.

For lunch and dinner try to stick with pulses as less carbs - though you may need to mix in nuts and seeds to up the protein as pulses still have carbs.

Good luck, and just ask if there's foods/meals you're unsure of xx


Diagnosed Type 2, 22nd Feb 2013
Hba1c 7.5
Three month trial of managing through diet & exercise.
Low carb, pescatarian
Trying various supplements!
 

clevertrevor

Newbie
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ive just joined diabetes.co.uk and my diabetes was diagnosed 15 years to late.My GP didnt care,so ive changed surgeries
I,m on 126 units of Insulin today and having a terrible job to get levels below 20.00

Doctors in Redditch can only see you for 10minutes and yet hypo,s and neuropathic problems in my feet are killing me
PLEASE PLEASE SOMEONE OUT THERE HELP ME
My breathing and chest pains affected by this diabetes.Ive been told by medics that high blood sugars can damage all organs in the body
My GP last night saidTrevor you must take AMOXYCILLIN because you have a nasty chest infection
WHERE WILL IT ALL END