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Alice:)

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hey all im 20 yrs old and recently diagnosed with type 1 diabetes and thought it would be really helpful to meet some other diabetics and get some top tips!!
any healthcare students out there? would love to know how you deal with blood sugars on placements when you are doing long days and different shifts! finding it hard to manage my blood sugars when there is little routine in my week!!

thanks Alice
 

this is too difficult

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Hi Alice welcome to the forum. Have you been recently diagnosed? I work shifts and find that my BG is worse when I am working. I am T2 unmedicated though so quite different than you. There are loads of clever people here who will help you.
 

Alice:)

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yes i was diagnosed 3 weeks ago, i know i can expect my blood sugars to be unstable at this point anyway but i have notice they are much harder to control when i work compared to when i have a few days off and was wondering if others have this problem and and advice :)
 

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yes i was diagnosed 3 weeks ago, i know i can expect my blood sugars to be unstable at this point anyway but i have notice they are much harder to control when i work compared to when i have a few days off and was wondering if others have this problem and and advice :)
Shift work is just bad for you really. If you have health issues, shift work will make many of them worse. You have to try a bit harder if you work shifts. Sorry. I have worked shifts for 38 years.
 
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Lamont D

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I worked shifts for 34 years mainly nights and days, which weren't too bad. It was when we went on a three shift pattern, 6-2, 2-10' 10-6, which I hated especially the early shift, I was always tired!
I wasn't diagnosed till I got early retirement, my GP reckoned, that if I still worked shifts that I would probably be very lucky to be alive, if I hadn't taken retirement.
I never could eat properly on shifts, only had one decent meal a day! Butties on nights at 3 o'clock am! Yuck! That's how I got my nickname, for my nosh box!!!!!
I do believe and heard it say that shifts are not good for your health or your well being! I am the perfect example,
 

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you and nme both mate
I worked shifts for 34 years mainly nights and days, which weren't too bad. It was when we went on a three shift pattern, 6-2, 2-10' 10-6, which I hated especially the early shift, I was always tired!
I wasn't diagnosed till I got early retirement, my GP reckoned, that if I still worked shifts that I would probably be very lucky to be alive, if I hadn't taken retirement.
I never could eat properly on shifts, only had one decent meal a day! Butties on nights at 3 o'clock am! Yuck! That's how I got my nickname, for my nosh box!!!!!
I do believe and heard it say that shifts are not good for your health or your well being! I am the perfect example,
You and me both mate. I have two 12 hour shifts to work before I retire.
 

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Hello and welcome Alice. Type 2 here so can't be any help at all to you with your question but I am sure you will find a heap of help and support. Good move to join the best forum on the planet! :happy:
 

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yes i was diagnosed 3 weeks ago, i know i can expect my blood sugars to be unstable at this point anyway but i have notice they are much harder to control when i work compared to when i have a few days off and was wondering if others have this problem and and advice :)
Welcome Alice,Im new as well,there are realy nice people on this site
 

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Hi Alice and welcome to the forum :)

If you need to know anything just ask and someone will help.
 

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yes i was diagnosed 3 weeks ago, i know i can expect my blood sugars to be unstable at this point anyway but i have notice they are much harder to control when i work compared to when i have a few days off and was wondering if others have this problem and and advice :)

I will have a google guess at it, until one of the clever guys see your post, I would put a 'insulin help' post on the insulin page/board here to get their attention
you may need to do a basal test and adjust your insulins for the main changes. Night shift/dayshift Weekend non-working days/midweek non working days etc, this will give an idea
https://www.google.com.au/#q=diabetes basal bolus regimen "night shift"
https://www.google.com.au/#q=diabetes "basal rate" shift work

I don't know what workbook you use but there seems to be a varied quality in them
https://www.google.com.au/#q=basal bolus workbook
 
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she is newly diagnosed daisy

Hi again, Alice - here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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Cloe-1992

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Hey Alice.

Welcome to the forum , I'm 22 so similar age to you , I've only joint recently , but this forum is very helpful and has such lovley people on here too .
Take care .
:):):)
 
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Lamont D

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On Tuesday.
If you are like me, you will wonder, where I had time to do a full time job, with all the social and family commitments. I have a part-time job now, that helps with my fitness and lifestyle.
Hope retirement suits you well!
 

RosieDred

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Hi, I was diagnosed in November and I do shift work (care assistant in nursing home). It is a nightmare for levels but what you basically need to do is plan your insulin depending on your shift. You'll probably end up with 4 or 5 different scenarios.
What this could mean for you is adjusting your basal insulin depending on what shift you are working the next day (less if a long day, more if not working).
What you may also need to do is have different ratios depending on each shift pattern to (if you are carb counting). If I'm working in a morning shift I have less insulin at breakfast than if I am working an afternoon shift. Same goes for other meals. I also make sure I have a carb free snack in between each meal when I'm working as I find it helps keep my levels stable.
My levels tend to be good when I'm working but high when I'm off work because I'm not as active.
By no means is this a fix everything solution but it may help. I'm still tweaking and learning and making notes to figure it all out myself xx


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Alice:)

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Hi, I was diagnosed in November and I do shift work (care assistant in nursing home). It is a nightmare for levels but what you basically need to do is plan your insulin depending on your shift. You'll probably end up with 4 or 5 different scenarios.
What this could mean for you is adjusting your basal insulin depending on what shift you are working the next day (less if a long day, more if not working).
What you may also need to do is have different ratios depending on each shift pattern to (if you are carb counting). If I'm working in a morning shift I have less insulin at breakfast than if I am working an afternoon shift. Same goes for other meals. I also make sure I have a carb free snack in between each meal when I'm working as I find it helps keep my levels stable.
My levels tend to be good when I'm working but high when I'm off work because I'm not as active.
By no means is this a fix everything solution but it may help. I'm still tweaking and learning and making notes to figure it all out myself xx


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ahh thankyou so much will have to try different things out and see how it goes :)