caring dad 66
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Am newly diagnosed with type 2.Am taking Metformin.
What 5 foods would you definitely avoid?
What 5 foods would you definitely avoid?
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5 foods to avoid???
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Squire Fulwood
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Sugar, flour, potatoes, rice and some say pasta although I always thought that came under flour.
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Bluetit1802
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Hello and welcome
Why only 5?
Sugar, rice, pasta, cereals, flour
Why only 5?
Sugar, rice, pasta, cereals, flour
Yes, they told me that too.
My body disagrees.
The only way you will find out what works for you, is by eating to your meter.
Lamont D
Oracle
Have a read around the forum especially about the low carbing. And how it's helped the diabetics on here.
It's all about getting your blood sugar levels under control and how to Reduce your levels. The NHS give these booklets out but that diet doesn't get you in control. It doesn't lose you weight.
Welcome to a new different lifestyle.
There are a lot of successful stories to read including my own.
Good luck.
Paul59
Well-Known Member
I would put it as, any wheat based products, starch unless it has an orangy colour to it, (they are better than white starch), Sugar (most of all).
I think seedy bread is not to bad but you have to look for the lowest carbs & highest fiber content.
Oat based products some can tolerate.
But we react differently so it's mainly down to testing to see what suits yourself.
I think seedy bread is not to bad but you have to look for the lowest carbs & highest fiber content.
Oat based products some can tolerate.
But we react differently so it's mainly down to testing to see what suits yourself.
Sadly that NHS advice is not based on any scientific evidence so is pretty worthless; sad that we fund this nonsense. Slow release carbs are always better than highly refined carbs but as diabetics we need to keep the carbs down as we can't handle glucose properly in the body. So carbs should be a small proportion of the plate with veg, some fruits, proteins and fat making up the rest. Your meter will prove this approach to be better than the info the nurse gave you.
phil1966
Well-Known Member
You might be different but the top five things I avoid (ignoring the obvious sugar) are:
All root vegetables (including potatoes)
All grains (bread of any kind except low carb tortillas, pastry, pasta, porridge, etc)
All rice (including brown)
Low fat versions of anything (fat is replaced with sugar in them)
Anything else with more than 5% carbs
Bluetit1802
Legend
I'm not entirely sure! It dropped steadily the more weight I lost, although it has never been high enough to need meds.
Sigalit
Well-Known Member
Most people on this forum will recommend low-carb diet, and it does seem to help to many people. But it's not the only way, you know.
My doctor also told me to eat carbs, though not 'half the plate'. She told me exactly how much carbs I should eat for each main meal (40 grams) and for snack (10 grams), to drink a lot and to exercise as much as I can (I have problems with my backbone). I've been following that advice, for 4 months, and my results are pretty good - from what I see on this forum, they are definitely comparable with results of people on a low-carb diet.
I only avoid sugar, "alternative sweeteners" (I only use stevia and occasionally erythritol), all sweets and cakes unless I make them myself, and soft drinks. For last four months, I've only been drinking water, unsweetened herbal tea, and once in a week or two a cup of coffee with erythritol and 2 tea spoons of milk. Other than that, I eat everything - bread, rice, pasta, potatoes, vegetable, fruit... they have sugars, but they have also many other useful nutrients, and I'm not willing to reduce all that and then to eat substitutes for missing vitamins and fibre.
But it takes a lot of discipline, learning about how to count carbs, to learn more about nutrition, glycemic index and glycemic loads, and a lot of testing - it takes time and it can be quite expensive. So choose what suits you and your lifestyle more, and what will be easier for you to follow in long-term.
I would like to point out that the reason that @Sigalit can manage more carbs is probably down to the insulin taken. The OP is only taking metformin and will probably need to be more careful with carbs than Sigalit. Of course low carbing isn't the only way, but I for one don't want to go down the drugs route before I have to.
I agree with the others on the food to cut out, at least initially.
Oh, I found my BP dropped as my carb intake dropped. I still have a lot more weight to lose.
I agree with the others on the food to cut out, at least initially.
Oh, I found my BP dropped as my carb intake dropped. I still have a lot more weight to lose.
But @Sigalit
It is always worth checking what the original poster's situation is.
@caring dad 66 's profile says that he is type 2, diet and metformin controlled.
Type 2s in the uk are usually actively discouraged from testing glucose levels and counting carbs. Staff in the National Health Service usually tell type 2s not to carb count and encourage them to base their diet around starchy carbs. There is then an expectation that the diabetes symptoms and complications will slowly escalate over time (eventually leading to more medication and insulin).
There is growing evidence that type 2s who restrict carbs enough can prevent or dramatically delay the onset of diabetic complications, and lower blood glucose to nearly non-diabetic levels. Unfortunately the NHS dietary advice is slow to adjust to this recent evidence.
I believe (from reading your previous posts) that you (Sigalit) are not a typical type 2, and you are on insulin with clear instructions by your consultant to match your carb consumption to your fixed insulin doses.
The difference between those treatment methods is profound (diet controlled T2 v fixed-insulin-dose T1 or 2).
Advice for type 1s on basal and bolus regimes is also different from the advice you have received.
In addition, I believe you have been advised to eat 130-150g of carbs a day (please correct me if I am wrong?). In that case, you are eating low carb, since anything below 150g a day is considered low carb and most people eat over 200g a day, sometimes as much as 5-600g.
It is always worth checking what the original poster's situation is.
@caring dad 66 's profile says that he is type 2, diet and metformin controlled.
Type 2s in the uk are usually actively discouraged from testing glucose levels and counting carbs. Staff in the National Health Service usually tell type 2s not to carb count and encourage them to base their diet around starchy carbs. There is then an expectation that the diabetes symptoms and complications will slowly escalate over time (eventually leading to more medication and insulin).
There is growing evidence that type 2s who restrict carbs enough can prevent or dramatically delay the onset of diabetic complications, and lower blood glucose to nearly non-diabetic levels. Unfortunately the NHS dietary advice is slow to adjust to this recent evidence.
I believe (from reading your previous posts) that you (Sigalit) are not a typical type 2, and you are on insulin with clear instructions by your consultant to match your carb consumption to your fixed insulin doses.
The difference between those treatment methods is profound (diet controlled T2 v fixed-insulin-dose T1 or 2).
Advice for type 1s on basal and bolus regimes is also different from the advice you have received.
In addition, I believe you have been advised to eat 130-150g of carbs a day (please correct me if I am wrong?). In that case, you are eating low carb, since anything below 150g a day is considered low carb and most people eat over 200g a day, sometimes as much as 5-600g.
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