A thinly disguised blessing

wildagayn

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Hello again everyone ,
I left a message on the newbie site and had wonderful encouraging replies . Thank you all . I have now moved to this site .......
I am still in shock re my diagnosis although not tearful any more , I realise this is a lifelong health situation but I am DETERMINED to control it .
I saw the practice nurse at my surgery and received a pack with information and leaflets inside , no luck on a blood sugar monitor and I believe I put forward a good case .
I am just over the borderline on T2 and no medication , it was suggested I control this with diet and exercise mmmm not easy without a monitor .
In fact I bought my own accucheck avica and test twice daily recording all my results .
I go to a gym at least twice a week and cannot remember what a real biscuit tastes like .
There is much to learn and I had to chase up the surgery for a place on a Desmond course and an eye appointment.
This forum saved my sanity
Thank you all so much
Wildagayn

 
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amgrundy

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You are in the best possible place here and welcome, ask what you like and someone will answer you. :)
 
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Hi, @wildagayn
If you haven't had the newbie information pack of information that @daisy1 gives out, then read about the importance of carbohydrates in getting control of your blood glucose levels. It is vitally important that if you can be without meds, this is the best way to do it. As you said you are prediabetic, on the edge as such. I would recommend reducing your carbs, reducing your plate size and getting a little more exercise if you can, even an extra half hours walk is beneficial to lower blood glucose levels. You seem to be determined in what to do.
I would get as much information as I could, read the low carb forum, there is some great ideas and recipes, also the success stories thread.
The thing about low carb, it does work.
 
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paula.nolan42

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I agree with the notion of it being a blessing in disguise, I tend to look at it that way, getting T2 diagnosis was a total wake up call and kick in the **** I need to get focused and on track.

I totally agree with you, this forum/site has been a godsend really.

I'm not one to dish out advice but Im here to give support when I can
 
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Liam1955

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@wildagayn - Hello and Welcome to the Forum. When you read through the information from daisy1 - if you have any questions you need answering? Just post them, someone will answer. :)
 

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Hi @wildagayn - just wanted to say hello and that I love your positive and determined attitude - keep it up!

:)
 

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Definitely a blessing in disguise for me - although I knew it was coming, it was just a matter of when.

I was completely unaware of how much elevated blood glucose (or a high carb diet - I'm actually not sure which is the cause) impacted me. I have a totally overwhelming - so, understandably I thought, I was constantly exhausted. Turns out that at least half of my exhaustion is due to either elevated blood sugar or high carb intake, and given that I've been hit like a ton of bricks on the rare occasion my blood glucose goes above 7.2, I'm inclined to think it is the former.

You can see, in my sig line, the changes since diagnosis in October. I feel 100% better now. Still tired - and that's not likely to change, but no longer bone-tired all the time, and much more mentally alert.

Meters are really the only way to go -you can make your strips more effective by testing in connection with eating. It is best to test before the first bite, test at 1 hour, then again at 2 hours and (if hour 2 is higher than hour 1) at 3 hours. But that's 2 days worth of strips. If I had to cut down to 2, I'd pick a later in the day meal, at least 3 hours after your last meal, when I was eating something new and I'd test at 1 hour and 2 hours. (Later in the day, long after food, because that tends to cut down in the influence of an early morning spike (known as the dawn phenomenon).

If you do that for a while, you will get a good idea of what you can tolerate and what you can't. Set targets for yourself (I use non-diabetic normal) and cut back or cut out anything that makes it go above that threshold.

By now, I'm testing an average of 3.3 times a day - but early on I was testing 5-10 times, beause I was eating lots of new things (I also like to make big changes quickly, while I am at my most motivated - another reason this was a blessing in disguise.)
 
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wildagayn

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Definitely a blessing in disguise for me - although I knew it was coming, it was just a matter of when.

I was completely unaware of how much elevated blood glucose (or a high carb diet - I'm actually not sure which is the cause) impacted me. I have a totally overwhelming - so, understandably I thought, I was constantly exhausted. Turns out that at least half of my exhaustion is due to either elevated blood sugar or high carb intake, and given that I've been hit like a ton of bricks on the rare occasion my blood glucose goes above 7.2, I'm inclined to think it is the former.

You can see, in my sig line, the changes since diagnosis in October. I feel 100% better now. Still tired - and that's not likely to change, but no longer bone-tired all the time, and much more mentally alert.

Meters are really the only way to go -you can make your strips more effective by testing in connection with eating. It is best to test before the first bite, test at 1 hour, then again at 2 hours and (if hour 2 is higher than hour 1) at 3 hours. But that's 2 days worth of strips. If I had to cut down to 2, I'd pick a later in the day meal, at least 3 hours after your last meal, when I was eating something new and I'd test at 1 hour and 2 hours. (Later in the day, long after food, because that tends to cut down in the influence of an early morning spike (known as the dawn phenomenon).

If you do that for a while, you will get a good idea of what you can tolerate and what you can't. Set targets for yourself (I use non-diabetic normal) and cut back or cut out anything that makes it go above that threshold.

By now, I'm testing an average of 3.3 times a day - but early on I was testing 5-10 times, beause I was eating lots of new things (I also like to make big changes quickly, while I am at my most motivated - another reason this was a blessing in disguise.)

Thank you so much , little by little this is beginning to make sense.
 
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JohnEGreen

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Hi wildagayn and welcome to the forum I would also like to say as others have that I like your positive attitude keep it up.
 
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daisy1

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@wildagayn

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

wildagayn

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Hi wildagayn and welcome to the forum I would also like to say as others have that I like your positive attitude keep it up.

Thank you Daisy , that info was SO SO helpful . I am a lucky bunny to have found this forum . It is a real help and I no longer feel alone or overwhelmed .
Lovely day here in Lancashire , off to do a snowdrop walk and then a little well chosen lunch out at Lytham Hall.
 
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kesun

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I agree with the notion of it being a blessing in disguise, I tend to look at it that way, getting T2 diagnosis was a total wake up call and kick in the **** I need to get focused and on track.
You know, I'd never thought about it before, but it strikes me now that most T2s here seem to have a far more positive attitude to diabetes than the rest of us whose diabetes is "not our own fault": I don't think I'm unusual among non-T2s in that I take a kind of comfort from blaming outside factors (my faulty genes, others' autoimmune disease) and am therefore much more inclined to rail against fate, feel sorry for myself, fall off the low-carb wagon and refuse to look after myself properly - or at best to grit my teeth stoically against the unfairness of it all and grimly plough on.

I now resolve to learn from your positive attitude - you and all the other T2s who've said similar things. The fact is that we all have diabetes: we are where we are now, regardless of how we got here, and if I can see that as a positive I'm going to cope much better.

Kate
 

wildagayn

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Thank you Daisy , that info was SO SO helpful . I am a lucky bunny to have found this forum . It is a real help and I no longer feel alone or overwhelmed .
Lovely day here in Lancashire , off to do a snowdrop walk and then a little well chosen lunch out at Lytham Hall.
Good morning Paula
Lovely to hear from you .
Now against your name it says MODY please can I ask what that means ?
Judith ( working towards being wild again )
 

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it was suggested I control this with diet and exercise mmmm not easy without a monitor .
Impossible, in fact. They don't want you to have one because of cost, and the fact you would realise the diet advice was nonsense. I'm abroad at the moment and have lost all control over the past four days. The rest of the things you are doing are good too. You have to chase them. They don't give a...
 

wildagayn

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Impossible, in fact. They don't want you to have one because of cost, and the fact you would realise the diet advice was nonsense. I'm abroad at the moment and have lost all control over the past four days. The rest of the things you are doing are good too. You have to chase them. They don't give a...

Abroad sounds lovely
Get back in control and enjoy !!!
 

dbr10

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Abroad sounds lovely
Get back in control and enjoy !!!
Trying too. BG shot up yesterday. Thought I cracked it today. Burger meat and cheese. A few nuts. Forgot to take the b****y metformin. Idiot!
 

kesun

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Now against your name it says MODY please can I ask what that means ?
Mature Onset Diabetes of Youth, also called monogenic diabetes. This site has a page on it http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes_mody.html though it states that MODY develops before age 25, which isn't necessarily true: since it's genetic, it will have been present since birth, but symptoms may not manifest themselves until much later.
Kate
 

wildagayn

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Mature Onset Diabetes of Youth, also called monogenic diabetes. This site has a page on it http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes_mody.html though it states that MODY develops before age 25, which isn't necessarily true: since it's genetic, it will have been present since birth, but symptoms may not manifest themselves until much later.
Kate
Thank you for that , I am learning all the time .
 

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I wonder sometimes if age of diagnosis is a bigger factor than type of diagnosis.

The majority of T2s are diagnosed after they have left teenage attitudes and 20s angst/antagonism behind.
Both of those were hellish enough (in my experience), without adding in diabetes (and yes, I am only speaking for myself, and from personal experience, I am sure there are many Zen-like T1 prodigies, so don't shoot me).

By the time you reach your middle years, life has sh$t on you often enough that T2 is just another dumpage from on high, and you probably lost your belief in 'fairness' a long time before...

:)
I think this is wonderful. The day I realised that life wasn't fair was incredibly liberating. And seeing other people wrestling daily with FAR worse things than diabetes makes me very grateful for the health I HAVE, not the health I have LOST..
 
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wildagayn

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Off to look at the snowdrops and then lunch. I try hard to count my blessings and the rubbish " not fair" stuff I put carefully in a box and lock it at the back of a cupboard on a high shelf
Have a good day everyone
 
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