Adventures in Sourdough

[IanBish]

Thanks. @MrsA2. I've had no problem giving up sugar, cakes, biscuits, pasta, and the Mars bars etc. I used to love scotch eggs, and thought they were okay. I still miss bread a bit, and wrongly thought that sourdough would be better. I don't eat much rice now, but it was a really small portion of fried rice, and the mushroom foo yung was to die for. I can have it without the rice, or with cauliflower rice. I know what you're saying, and I'll read those links. Thank you.

 

[Antje77]

Step away from those scotch eggs!

Or make your own keto scotch eggs of course @IanBish !
They're just a google search away, and while I haven't made scotch eggs, I have used crushed pork rinds to make a crust on other stuff, can recommend.

 

[Daphne917]

I tried a few of the supermarket sourdoughs a while ago. I swear that most of them were sourdough flavoured. This one, however, was from an "artisan" bakery. I only briefly glanced at the Welsh cakes on offer there, and quickly glanced away. I hope you can tolerate a little bit of decent sourdough, which doesn't spike you too much.

So, I inadvertently did the right thing by freezing it? I'll try maybe one (defrosted) slice next time, and see what my Libre says.

I always keep my bread in the freezer and take out a slice when required either for a sandwich or toast. It’s 12g carbs per slice but doesn’t have much effect on my BS

 

[Daphne917]

Thanks. @MrsA2. I've had no problem giving up sugar, cakes, biscuits, pasta, and the Mars bars etc. I used to love scotch eggs, and thought they were okay. I still miss bread a bit, and wrongly thought that sourdough would be better. I don't eat much rice now, but it was a really small portion of fried rice, and the mushroom foo yung was to die for. I can have it without the rice, or with cauliflower rice. I know what you're saying, and I'll read those links. Thank you.

Did you slice the sourdough prior to freezing it as you could make your own scotch eggs by making breadcrumbs from it!

 

[IanBish]

Did you slice the sourdough prior to freezing it as you could make your own scotch eggs by making breadcrumbs from it!

Yes, the bakery sliced it. Thickly! I'll be making (non-carby) scotch eggs soon. And when I'm feeling brave I'll have a single slice of sourdough, with butter and peanut butter on I think.

 

[IanBish]

It's also why mixing carbs in with fats, proteins and fibre works. All just makes your stomach work harder to get at the carbs and slows down the digestion of them.

I was brave, and defrosted a couple of (smaller) slices, and had them with fried bacon for lunch. But before that I had some 10% fat Greek yoghurt. My reading just before was 4.7, and two hours later it was 5.6. The area under the curve may have been similar as before, though, i.e. the peak may have lasted longer, but been less high. Anyway, I'll take that as a small win.

Plus, both tests were successful first time, using the tiniest drop of blood!

(I'll apply my next CGM just before the Christmas festivities begin)

 

[Paul_]

I was brave, and defrosted a couple of (smaller) slices, and had them with fried bacon for lunch. But before that I had some 10% fat Greek yoghurt. My reading just before was 4.7, and two hours later it was 5.6. The area under the curve may have been similar as before, though, i.e. the peak may have lasted longer, but been less high. Anyway, I'll take that as a small win.

Plus, both tests were successful first time, using the tiniest drop of blood!

(I'll apply my next CGM just before the Christmas festivities begin)

If bread caused that response for me, in conjunction with those accompanying foods, I'd happily have it as a treat now and again.

I don't crave bread like I used to (I used to be a bread of some form with/for every meal kinda guy some days), but despite the substitutes I use being fairly decent, I do miss the real deal occasionally. I suspect that for me the bigger issue would likely be keeping it to "occasionally", as @KennyA highlighted previously.

Interesting tests though Ian, definitely a win.

 

[IanBish]

If bread caused that response for me, in conjunction with those accompanying foods, I'd happily have it as a treat now and again.

I don't crave bread like I used to (I used to be a bread of some form with/for every meal kinda guy some days), but despite the substitutes I use being fairly decent, I do miss the real deal occasionally. I suspect that for me the bigger issue would likely be keeping it to "occasionally", as @KennyA highlighted previously.

Interesting tests though Ian, definitely a win.

That's good to hear, Paul. You were right about the fats and protein dampening the effect of the carbs.

Although the sourdough was very nice, I felt quite bloated after it. Which I don't get with bacon and eggs, for example. I'll keep it as a treat.

I'm glad you found my sourdough test interesting. Next stop is a special fried rice...

 

[Dancing Badger]

That's good to hear, Paul. You were right about the fats and protein dampening the effect of the carbs.

Although the sourdough was very nice, I felt quite bloated after it. Which I don't get with bacon and eggs, for example. I'll keep it as a treat.

I'm glad you found my sourdough test interesting. Next stop is a special fried rice...

Last weekend OH was working on the kitchen floor and cooking on Saturday night was nigh on impossible. For the first time since my diagnosis, we shared a takeaway - ribs and special fried rice. My BG before eating was 6.1, two hours later 5.8. I was really surprised, but I'm not going to call that a win just yet; more testing required.

Given that fried rice is pre-cooked and cooled before being fried, could it be possible starch resistance came into play?

 

[IanBish]

Given that fried rice is pre-cooked and cooled before being fried, could it be possible starch resistance came into play?

It could be. Along with the oil, chicken, pork and prawns that's usually in it. When I've got my CGM on I'm going to see what happens with a foo yung and a small egg fried rice before I tackle a special fried rice. That's an interesting result, mind.

 

[JenniferM55]

Last weekend OH was working on the kitchen floor and cooking on Saturday night was nigh on impossible. For the first time since my diagnosis, we shared a takeaway - ribs and special fried rice. My BG before eating was 6.1, two hours later 5.8. I was really surprised, but I'm not going to call that a win just yet; more testing required.

Given that fried rice is pre-cooked and cooled before being fried, could it be possible starch resistance came into play?

Did you have a glass of wine with it? Alcohol has been known to lower BG too, but not to be recommended.

 

[IanBish]

Did you have a glass of wine with it? Alcohol has been known to lower BG too, but not to be recommended.

Why not?

 

[JenniferM55]

Why not?

Recommended 'yes' for a meal, but I meant not recommended to control BG. I've noticed when I have a G&T (sugar free tonic) my BG does drop.

 

[IanBish]

Recommended 'yes' for a meal, but I meant not recommended to control BG. I've noticed when I have a G&T (sugar free tonic) my BG does drop.

I see. Thanks.

 

[Dancing Badger]

Recommended 'yes' for a meal, but I meant not recommended to control BG. I've noticed when I have a G&T (sugar free tonic) my BG does drop.

Yes - 175ml red wine; I'm aware of the effect of alcohol on BG, but I've been experimenting with different meals over the past few months and wine seems to have little effect for me.