Advice from any low carbers

[Outlier]

The Portland medical Centre link observed that cheese contains carbohydrates. News to me. Any info?

Sue512, you are doing a splendid job on your health. 13lizanne you are doing an equally splendid job on your healthcare practitioners. Admirable.

 

[Oldvatr]

The Portland medical Centre link observed that cheese contains carbohydrates. News to me. Any info?

Sue512, you are doing a splendid job on your health. 13lizanne you are doing an equally splendid job on your healthcare practitioners. Admirable.

The Benefits and Risks of Cheese for People with Diabetes

Cheese may be a good option for people with diabetes due to its high protein and low carbohydrate content. Here’s what you need to know.

www.healthline.com

Yes. Hard cheeses seem to be keto friendly, but soft cheeses and spreads do contain significant carbs. Cheeses with cartoon characters and red cows with large udders tend to be aimed at kids, and may have added sweeteners.

 

[Liam E]

The Portland medical Centre link observed that cheese contains carbohydrates. News to me. Any info?

Sue512, you are doing a splendid job on your health. 13lizanne you are doing an equally splendid job on your healthcare practitioners. Admirable.

Lactose, the sugar in milk, is a disaccharide just like table sugar, but instead of being half glucose, half fructose it is half glucose, half galactose.

The bacteria used to make cheese and yoghurt break this down. In yoghurts and hard cheeses there is little left, in soft cheeses there can be quite a bit left.

 

[Lainie71]

Thank goodness we have here to talk sense into us. It’s a shame you didn’t have positive feedback on a brilliant achievement. At least she did congratulate me on what she called iron control on my diet and a fantastic achievement in bringing levels down, then spoilt it by giving me the eatwell advice!

I made sure I reminded her of how well I had progressed with my bg levels "well you have to admit..." and she caved - so that was definitely a breakthrough and I felt smug!

 

[KennyA]

A friend of mine has been T2 for a number of years and he has indeed "progressed" to insulin. He did this by sticking closely to the Eatwell plate advice. He's actually pleased about that as it means he can eat as much cake and biscuits as he likes - the problems with excess weight, mobility, eyesight etc are secondary in his mind.

He keeps telling me low-carb doesn't work.

 

[filly]

The Benefits and Risks of Cheese for People with Diabetes

Cheese may be a good option for people with diabetes due to its high protein and low carbohydrate content. Here’s what you need to know.

www.healthline.com

Yes. Hard cheeses seem to be keto friendly, but soft cheeses and spreads do contain significant carbs. Cheeses with cartoon characters and red cows with large udders tend to be aimed at kids, and may have added sweeteners.

I have noted that hard cheese is fine. The cheaper soft cheese is ok but Philly Not and has added sugar. Just a question of looking I think.

 

[Outlier]

Thanks all for your useful info.

 

[MrsA2]

give a shout out to my surgery. GPS and DN are all on board with low car Keto and Intermittent Fasting

Where do we need to move to? I fancy a change

 

[MrsA2]

A friend of mine has been T2 for a number of years and he has indeed "progressed" to insulin. He did this by sticking closely to the Eatwell plate advice. He's actually pleased about that as it means he can eat as much cake and biscuits as he likes - the problems with excess weight, mobility, eyesight etc are secondary in his mind.

He keeps telling me low-carb doesn't work.

That's so sad.
I've just been talking to a friend who has had t2 20 years and eaten what he likes (nurse told him to cut down a bit!). We are planning a coach trip but he's concerned about going up and down the steps because his feet are "black and numb", he won't bother with a window seat because "he can't see much" and he's concerned at the distance becuase "he needs the loo every 20 minutes"...but none of this is related to his diabetes "else they would have told him"

 

[13lizanne]

Where do we need to move to? I fancy a change

Central Scotland you would be welcome I'll put the kettle on

 

[MrsA2]

Central Scotland you would be welcome I'll put the kettle on

I'm on my way

 

[filly]

It is so incredibly sad. I could say more but shan't right now. Hugs to the man who can't see the wood for the trees.

 

[Lainie71]

That's so sad.
I've just been talking to a friend who has had t2 20 years and eaten what he likes (nurse told him to cut down a bit!). We are planning a coach trip but he's concerned about going up and down the steps because his feet are "black and numb", he won't bother with a window seat because "he can't see much" and he's concerned at the distance becuase "he needs the loo every 20 minutes"...but none of this is related to his diabetes "else they would have told him"

Its just heartbreaking x

 

[Lainie71]

I'm on my way

Me too, but do you get proper weather up there as where I am in Somerset its hit and miss hardly any cold snowy weather. I have not seen frost yet and I long for crisp mornings and being snowed in, that way I don't have to do any more hair cuts for the a few weeks....?

 

[Deleted member 475901]

At the moment there has been too little 'medical research' into the impact of a low carb diet over 20, 30 or 40 years so no one can claim we have beaten it by current scientific methods - so as far as they are concerned each one of us is just that, one. Lots of anecdotal information.
But all the evidence we do have is that T2 diabetes does not have to be progressive. It has been progressive in the past for many because of the outdated advice and the so called Eatwell plate.
I am lucky that although I rarely see the same nurse at my surgery the current crop appear to be fine with me low carbing, as was my GP at the start of this. I just wish they'd taken up my offer to talk to their other T2s.

 

[Liam E]

At the moment there has been too little 'medical research' into the impact of a low carb diet over 20, 30 or 40 years so no one can claim we have beaten it by current scientific methods - so as far as they are concerned each one of us is just that, one. Lots of anecdotal information.
But all the evidence we do have is that T2 diabetes does not have to be progressive. It has been progressive in the past for many because of the outdated advice and the so called Eatwell plate.
I am lucky that although I rarely see the same nurse at my surgery the current crop appear to be fine with me low carbing, as was my GP at the start of this. I just wish they'd taken up my offer to talk to their other T2s.

The problem with "medical research" is that it is now overwhelmingly pharmaceutical research.

There is no pill for a low carb diet. It cannot be patented. They can't make money off it. So it gets no funding.

There are FAR too many N=1 studies on low carb improving blood sugar control and putting type 2 into remission for it to be anything other than remarkably effective.

 

[13lizanne]

Me too, but do you get proper weather up there as where I am in Somerset its hit and miss hardly any cold snowy weather. I have not seen frost yet and I long for crisp mornings and being snowed in, that way I don't have to do any more hair cuts for the a few weeks....?

I'm afraid that we are suffering from Global warming too, its 18 deg here today

 

[Robbity]

The Portland medical Centre link observed that cheese contains carbohydrates. News to me. Any info?

I eat a fair bit of soft goats cheese, most of which contains around 1g carbs per 100g; highest I found when doing quick check was 2.5 g per 100g. Soft Philadelphia cheese has more like 4.5g carbs though.

 

[Oldvatr]

I eat a fair bit of soft goats cheese, most of which contains around 1g carbs per 100g; highest I found when doing quick check was 2.5 g per 100g. Soft Philadelphia cheese has more like 4.5g carbs theese is 5.4hough.

Dairy;ea cheese is 4.8%, of which sugars 4.8% Laughing Cow cheese is 6% of which sugars 6%. ASDA Light Less Fat soft cheese is 5.4%

 

[lovinglife]

Don’t forget to take portion size into account, I eat Philadelphia cheese regularly but only a tablespoon at a time which is only 1g carb - perfectly fine for my less than 20g carb a day. I don’t eat much hard cheese as I put weight on with it. We are all individuals and the best way to see what’s right for ourselves is to test and see