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Type 2 Advice from doctors

jerryatric

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Type 2
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My wife is type2 on insulin Novomix 30 , She is a heavy smoker and her glucose levels are always high 9.0 to 16.0. the doctor has told us that her high levels are ok and smoking is no problem . This is causing a few disagreements as I am a non smoker and watch my levels carefully. WHO IS RIGHT PLEASE.
 
Has the doctor really, or, is that what your wife wanted to here? We all have selective hearing/memory when it suits us!

Those levels must be making your wife feel awful and she probably doesn't even realise. By the way the smoking will not be effecting her levels. If anything it may be helping at the moment because if she stops the nicotine she will have other cravings and likely turn to food.

You probably know you can't force her to change and arguing will not help; you need to lead.

What does she eat at the moment? I am hoping that a few small changes could help and that then she may see and feel the benefit.
 
Hi jerryatric. Welcome to the forums. I will tag @daisy1 who can provide some really useful information for you.

I must admit that i am concerned that a doctor has said that those levels of glucose are ok and that smoking is no problem. High levels are not good...especially consistant high levels, as there is a risk of complications and neuropathy.

Smoking, especially heavy smoking is not good either. Smoking makes the blood thicker and sticker which increases the risk of clots and strokes ect.

Is it possible to give a little more information as to your wifes general health/diet/weight? Sorry cant help more.

I would consider talking to another doctor or diabetic nurse specialist and relay your concerns.

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My wife is type2 on insulin Novomix 30 , She is a heavy smoker and her glucose levels are always high 9.0 to 16.0. the doctor has told us that her high levels are ok and smoking is no problem . This is causing a few disagreements as I am a non smoker and watch my levels carefully. WHO IS RIGHT PLEASE.

Incomprehensible!!

For be it for me to disagree with the medics, but disagree I will, assuming that's what the doctor said.

I've just completed a DESMOND course for T2s on Thursday and one specific section focuses on the heightened risk of complications for T2 smokers as being a 10 to 20 fold increase in the likelihood of chronic heart, vascular disease and stroke. That's 1000% to 2000% greater risk than a smoker who does not have T2.

Please let your wife read this post and encourage her to sign up for a DESMOND course, that will give her at least a kick-start in renewed understanding:)


Diagnosed 13/4/16: T2, no meds, HbA1c 53, FBG 12.6, Trigs 3.6, HDL .75, LDL 4.0, BP 169/95, BPM 85, 13st 8lbs, waist 34" (2012 - 17st 7lbs, w 42").

16/6/16: FBG AV 4.6, Trigs 1.5, HDL 2.0, LDL 3.0, BP 112/68, BPM 6O, 11st 5lbs, waist 30", PWV 7.0. Lifelong migraines and hay fever gone.

Regime: 20g LCHF, run 1 mile daily, weekly fasting, occasionally longer fasts.
 
Hi jerryatric. Welcome to the forums. I will tag @daisy who can provide some really useful information for you.

I must admit that i am concerned that a doctor has said that those levels of glucose are ok and that smoking is no problem. High levels are not good...especially consistant high levels, as there is a risk of complications and neuropathy.

Smoking, especially heavy smoking is not good either. Smoking makes the blood thicker and sticker which increases the risk of clots and strokes ect.

Is it possible to give a little more information as to your wifes general health/diet/weight? Sorry cant help more.

I would consider talking to another doctor or diabetic nurse specialist and relay your concerns.

Sent from my SM-A500FU using Diabetes.co.uk Forum mobile app
Thank you Nurse Dee Yes I was surprised at doctors statement Had I not heard it over the phone I would not have believed it .This was an out of hours service doctor..
 
Had I not heard the doctor myself over our speakerphone I would not have believed it Thank you for your help.
 
Kevin thanks for message I can assure you I heard what the doctor said over our speakerphone .

Good luck as you press forward:)


Diagnosed 13/4/16: T2, no meds, HbA1c 53, FBG 12.6, Trigs 3.6, HDL .75, LDL 4.0, BP 169/95, BPM 85, 13st 8lbs, waist 34" (2012 - 17st 7lbs, w 42").

16/6/16: FBG AV 4.6, Trigs 1.5, HDL 2.0, LDL 3.0, BP 112/68, BPM 6O, 11st 5lbs, waist 30", PWV 7.0. Lifelong migraines and hay fever gone.

Regime: 20g LCHF, run 1 mile daily, weekly fasting, occasionally longer fasts.
 
Hi. Those levels are not OK. We would need to have more information such as weight, BMI, other meds etc to possibly comment further. The numbers indicate that small increase in the Novomix may be needed or even a move to Basal/Bolus if your wife has a normal weight?
 
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