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owenadam040

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Hi I have a son who is aT1 diabetic. Just wondered what a normal reading for a non diabetic person should read on a a glucose monitor before and after eating/ excersising etc. Thanks
 
I am not T1 so I won't comment, but hopefully someone will soon give you an answer to your question.

I do know that "normal" blood sugar levels are difficult to achieve in most diabetics, but a good overall control is easily achieved for many, but not all.

hopefully this post will "bump" your post up again.

H
 
Fasting blood glucose for a non-diabetic will be somewhere between 3.6 and 4.4 mmol/l, lowest in the morning and before meals.. two-hour post meal blood glucose can rise as high as 7.8 mmol/l but typically will be below 5.8 mmol/l depending on the meal. Average blood glucose for a non-diabetic is around 4 - 5 mmol/l. There is an interesting study somewhere I will try and find and link it later.

Clearly those blood glucose readings are lower than the NICE guild-lines for Type 1 and Type 2 diabetics. Which are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for Type 2 diabetes
- Before meals: 4 to 7 mmols/l
- 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmols/s

Blood glucose ranges for Type 1 diabetes
- Before meals: 4 to 7 mmols/l
- 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmols/s

As for what level your son should be at that's a personal choice that you will need to be made in conjunction with your doctors / nurses... however a lot of people would agree that the NICE guild-lines are not tight enough and many diabetics aim for tighter control.
 
NICE levels for non-diabetics are:

3.5 - 5.5 mmol/l before meals
less than 8 mmol/l 2 hours after meals

I don't know about exercise, because I think it depends on the person and the amount. Moderate exercise (gardening, walking, light weight work - I don't do much!) drops mine a little but not much.

Viv 8)
 
Does anyone happen to know what those numbers would be when converted to the American System?

In America, a normal reading for a non diabetic-hypoglycemic would be 80-120.

A reading for a hypoglycemic would be anything under 60 (average reading)

A hospital visit would be anything under 40.

A diabetic (type 2) would begin to see signs of mood change, sleep pattern disturbances, sweating, etc at about 250+

A diabetic (type 2) would need to see a doctor for anything steadily over 400+or under 60-.

Type 2 in the USA can be controlled and cured by medication, weight loss and diet. I am not sure if this is the same for UK.

Type 1 is a incurable type that requires medication and insulin, but can also be controlled by diet.

I am not aware if we have a type 1.5 like in the UK. My ex-husband was a type 2 and his best friend a type 1.

Does anyone happen to know what those numbers would be when converted to the American System? Any help would be appreciated.. Thank you ,
Denise
 
Hi Denise

If you type 'blood glucose conversion table' into Google or any search engine you should get a conversion chart. If you don't get anything, I'll see if i can find you a link.

Viv 8)
 
I don't believe it would be possible to have a young T1 child in very tight limits like that of a non-diabetic person. I can mostly keep my son between 4mmol and 10mmol but there will be times when he is higher either intentionally or due to illness or poor calculation of carbs on my part. Pre-swimming in Summer I wouldn't want my son below 10mmol as he is very prone to hypo with the exertion and cold water. I'd also be giving him a snack straight out of the pool. There are also times when it is just nice to let him be a kid.
 
Denise to convert from UK mmol/l to the US mg/dl you can roughly multiple mmol/l by 18..

So:
4mmol/l is equal to: 72 mg/dl
5mmol/l is equal to: 90 mg/dl
etc...

I would reiterate what I said early and advise that any target blood glucose targets should be agreed in conjunction with a medical professional... running tight blood glucose runs a higher risk of dangerous hypo's and should always be balanced against that risk..
 
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