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Rachava03

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Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
Hi, not been diagnosed with diabetes but keep getting really bad attacks where iv nearly collapsed. I bought a bs Meter as I feel it's my blood sugar crashing. Overheating hunger is insane shaky, pale, heart pounding etc. Last attack was 4 days ago, I had ate a nectarine (noticed certain fruits definitely trigger this) few hours later had the attack done bs reading dunno how as shakes were crazy!! 2:1 had a mad binge anything sugary I needed to eat!! 20 mins after 19:8 then another twenty mins 22:22. Felt drained whole evening exhausted.
Next morning Wednesday 18:5
Before bed 20:0
Next day on awaken Thursday, 18:3 before bed 16:5
Next day Friday 18:6 before bed 18:1
And this morning Saturday 19:1
Sorry for long post just don't know what's going on, have no diabetes in family. Does this sound like diabetes? Will be seeing doctor next week have an appointment just want to see what others think. Thank you :)
 
Hi @Rachava03 .. and welcome
Two immediate things ..

1) Your numbers are too high and you need to go to your surgery and see your doctor as soon as possible .. bring your appointment for next week forward (as an emergency appointment if necessary)
2) Stay off the "sugary" things that you have been eating

Let us know how you get on .. and be assured that you have come to the right place here. Once you have stabilised your current blood glucose levels, just ask your questions and you will get all the advice and information that you need

Hope this helps
 
Hi thank you for your advice I will keep off all sugary stuff it sounds mad but I'm craving anything sugary! And also will see my doc asap. Can your sugars drop so low and go this high? Is that diabetes? I feel very tired and can't stop drinking too :( have fibromyalgia so all symptoms doctor keeps putting it down to this but I know more to it so will get tested asap.Thank you for your help :)
 
Hi thank you for your advice I will keep off all sugary stuff it sounds mad but I'm craving anything sugary! And also will see my doc asap. Can your sugars drop so low and go this high? Is that diabetes? I feel very tired and can't stop drinking too :( have fibromyalgia so all symptoms doctor keeps putting it down to this but I know more to it so will get tested asap.Thank you for your help :)
Hugs. I think carbs are addictive. How are you feeling? you are going to be lucky with the support of this forum and @daisy1 straight away so do post everything that is happening to you so people can give you the best advice possible whilst you wait to see your health professional HP. My personal experience is I felt really really ill, found this forum but was away from the computer for most of the month in question so I stopped carbs and felt better in 48 hours. Not sure if people would advise a more gradual reduction. You will get good advice.
 
@Rachava03

Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members should you need it. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 245,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
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Thank you everyone this is a great sight so much information so thanks. Had banging head all yesterday really drained, dizzy too. Done bs before tea as started shaking overheating and they had dropped to 5:2 had cube cheese and felt better, before bed 7:1 so I was made up!! But this morning 18:5 :( how?? which I can't understand, I ate a chicken salad for tea and a glass off milk before bed full fat milk. Did have an orange too? I am defo going to lower my carb intake today. So thank you to you all x
 
Hi, not been diagnosed with diabetes but keep getting really bad attacks where iv nearly collapsed. I bought a bs Meter as I feel it's my blood sugar crashing. Overheating hunger is insane shaky, pale, heart pounding etc. Last attack was 4 days ago, I had ate a nectarine (noticed certain fruits definitely trigger this) few hours later had the attack done bs reading dunno how as shakes were crazy!! 2:1 had a mad binge anything sugary I needed to eat!! 20 mins after 19:8 then another twenty mins 22:22. Felt drained whole evening exhausted.
Next morning Wednesday 18:5
Before bed 20:0
Next day on awaken Thursday, 18:3 before bed 16:5
Next day Friday 18:6 before bed 18:1
And this morning Saturday 19:1
Sorry for long post just don't know what's going on, have no diabetes in family. Does this sound like diabetes? Will be seeing anddoctor next week have an appointment just want to see what others think. Thank you :)
Put the meter away and just wait until you see your doctor and you know for certain what's going on you can't diagnose diabetes from a finger prick
 
Hi @Rachava03 and welcome.

I suggest you avoid all fruit for the time being until you know where you stand and what is happening. Eating some cheese or a boiled egg instead of a sugary snack will help. I would also leave out the milk drink before bed for now. Fruit and also milk can play havoc with our blood sugar levels because of all the natural sugar they contain. It is all these swings from very high to low and back high again that are making you feel so awful.

See your GP as soon as possible and take your meter along with you so you can show him all your readings. If you also record these levels alongside what you have eaten, take that with you, too.
 
If you can stay off the high sugar and starches until you see your doctor, and are still testing, you might need to explain very carefully that you are avoiding carbs - as your readings ought to become more normal quite quickly.
My health care professionals were bewildered by the change in my readings.
 
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