Am I really a Type 2 diabetic or something else?

Blackbird3

Newbie
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1
Type of diabetes
Type 2
My diabetes kicked in after I had septicemia following kidney surgery - yes I am about 12 pounds overweight but I am well toned and not obese. My GP has automatically classed me as Type 2 because I was 50 when diagnosed. My reading was 26 - v high, I had gone because my urine smelt funny and I felt really weak and tired all the time. Despite keeping to a good diet my sugar levels are higher than they should be all the time. I was in hospital recently and despite no food for 36 hours my readings were still 9.6. I am on 3 Metformin pills a day. Could I be another form of diabetic? And how do I find out? I do have a friend who is a Type 1 diabetic and not diagnosed until he was in his late 50's.
 

Lamont D

Oracle
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17,752
Type of diabetes
Reactive hypoglycemia
Treatment type
I do not have diabetes
Unfortunately, we cannot diagnose on the forum.
However, only tests can confirm which type you have and only your GP can order these tests.

I've tagged @daisy1 to give you the newcomers welcome information.
Please read and read more around the forum. There is some good information on here.
How to get control and lower your blood glucose levels.by reducing.

If you had a fasting blood glucose level of 9mmols, then I would say that without further tests, you are probably T2 diabetic.

Hope this helps and welcome to the forum.
 

Bluetit1802

Legend
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25,215
Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
As Nosher says above, we can't diagnose you. There are certain tests for Type 1 diabetes, which can be late onset. It isn't restricted to young people. If you are concerned, go back to your doctor and ask for the tests.

Meanwhile, do you have your own meter? If not I strongly urge you to buy one. You can then keep an eye on your levels, and start to control them with a suitable way of eating. Your meter is the best tool to help you with this because you can test before and 2 hours after a meal and see what that meal has done to your levels. If the rise is more than 2mmol/l there is something in that meal that needs cutting out or reducing in portion size, and you will find that the "something" will be a carbohydrate or a fruit.
 

daisy1

Legend
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26,457
Type of diabetes
Type 2
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Tablets (oral)
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Cruelty towards animals.
@Blackbird3

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here, as mentioned above, is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful, whatever type you are. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

Daibell

Master
Messages
12,674
Type of diabetes
LADA
Treatment type
Insulin
Hi. If you can get your weight down to a 'normal' good BMI it may be easier to get the right diagnosis. Do this via low-carbing. If your high blood sugar remains then Late onset T1 becomes more likely. Many GPs aren't aware of Late onset T1 and I went that way at age 60 and my diabetic GPs didn't have a clue. I had the tests done privately. If the usual T2 drugs such as Metformin, Gliclazide and possibly Sitagliptin (there are others) don't work at all or after a while then that is another clue to T1. Push for the tests.
 

DavidGrahamJones

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,262
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Other
Dislikes
Newspapers
My diabetes kicked in after I had septicemia following kidney surgery - yes I am about 12 pounds overweight but I am well toned and not obese. My GP has automatically classed me as Type 2 because I was 50 when diagnosed. My reading was 26 - v high, I had gone because my urine smelt funny and I felt really weak and tired all the time. Despite keeping to a good diet my sugar levels are higher than they should be all the time. I was in hospital recently and despite no food for 36 hours my readings were still 9.6. I am on 3 Metformin pills a day. Could I be another form of diabetic? And how do I find out? I do have a friend who is a Type 1 diabetic and not diagnosed until he was in his late 50's.
Welcome to the forum, sorry to hear of your diagnosis, just as well you "smelled" something not right.

A c-peptide test should show what state your pancreas is in, if it's still producing insulin or not.

I have also recently been in hospital and my BG was all over the place even after not eating for some time and avoiding carbs usually anyway.

As has been mentioned, get a meter and start testing. It will give you a better idea of what is going on.

All the best.
 

Crazy_lady's

Newbie
Messages
4
Type of diabetes
Type 2
@Blackbird3

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here, as mentioned above, is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful, whatever type you are. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
My blood glucose readings is not often lower than 9 risk g to 18 daily I have. Been type 210years now on insulin 3 times a day plus 2metformin twice a day and 1saxagliptin. I am always getting water infections insulin now at 37_20_37 going up again next week