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Am i the only one who wants a pump?

@dashing

So what makes you think you can manage the commitment a pump necessitates?

What is it about a pump that makes you want one?
 
what makes me want a pump is that it's there and it's constantly a reminder for me to do my injections ect, it's also alot more easier for when i'm in work and will benift me more imo.

Other then not getting one on the nhs i will buy my own :>
 
Just concerned with my "older head" on that you do not see it as an easy option.

Just a tip, you will need to meet NICE guidelines, and if I was your DSN and had you state your last post, I would not consider you a priority.

As another tip... Read the NICE guidelines for the criteria that you have to meet to be considered for a pump. Make a list of why you meet this criteria before you see discuss this with your health professionals.

I'm afraid that 'I want' isn't enough, you are going to have to prove why you NEED one.

I am an old, straight talking person with a pump. I am just giving you the questions and the views of Management/Consultants that will be reviewing you. I' m not saying statements from a Patient view. Just trying to let you know what challenges you may face.
 
donnellysdogs said:
Just concerned with my "older head" on that you do not see it as an easy option.

Just a tip, you will need to meet NICE guidelines, and if I was your DSN and had you state your last post, I would not consider you a priority.

As another tip... Read the NICE guidelines for the criteria that you have to meet to be considered for a pump. Make a list of why you meet this criteria before you see discuss this with your health professionals.

I'm afraid that 'I want' isn't enough, you are going to have to prove why you NEED one.

I am an old, straight talking person with a pump. I am just giving you the questions and the views of Management/Consultants that will be reviewing you. I' m not saying statements from a Patient view. Just trying to let you know what challenges you may face.
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thanks for the advice but if type 2 people can get one then how come it's difficult for us type ones who want one can't get it?
 
There is no constant reminder to bolus on a pump by the way... It doesn't alarm to remind you. You can still ignore getting the pump off you, or getting the remote control out to bolus. It is all down to you to manage it. You will need to spend a lot more effort judging whether your basal rates are right, whether your bolus is right or corrections, Changing hourly rates, loading the pump with insulin etc, testing more and basal testing, changing cannulas, removing when getting in the bath, reconnecting etc..and more blood tests than I ever did on mdi.

Practice doing 2 hourly blood tests and including nights for the next month.... That is what you will have to do on initial pump. Then cut down to 9 a day, that's what I do as an average....
 
donnellysdogs said:
There is no constant reminder to bolus on a pump by the way... It doesn't alarm to remind you. You can still ignore getting the pump off you, or getting the remote control out to bolus. It is all down to you to manage it. You will need to spend a lot more effort judging whether your basal rates are right, whether your bolus is right or corrections, Changing hourly rates, loading the pump with insulin etc, testing more and basal testing, changing cannulas, removing when getting in the bath, reconnecting etc..and more blood tests than I ever did on mdi.

Practice doing 2 hourly blood tests and including nights for the next month.... That is what you will have to do on initial pump. Then cut down to 9 a day, that's what I do as an average....
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i test my sugar way to much as it is atm :( i've become a nightmare to the doctors who now think i sell my strips online.
 
Type 2's can't get pumps currently.
 
Testing is great, and good that you are doing it. Are you confident at altering doses etc? You have to prove that you are... Basically because you will be solely responsible for a finely tuned machine that needs confidence, albeit a different way to adjust everything.

Do you fill in your log books detailing food, doses, carbs etc.... You need to prove everything...
And that nothing works......
 
Which hospital do you attend? I see where you live on your profile... Is this Wales..sorry, there are lots of this name as towns all over the world.... Only cos I lived near you for 4 years when I got given my pump.
 
donnellysdogs said:
Which hospital do you attend? I see where you live on your profile... Is this Wales..sorry, there are lots of this name as towns all over the world.... Only cos I lived near you for 4 years when I got given my pump.
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sorry yes i live in Wales uk i don't attend appointments atm but i was under the royal gwent.
and there's a type 2 on here asking about a pump as they been given the option to go one
 
Sorry, just re read.. You not under a hospital...

You must get a hospital to get a pump...
 
donnellysdogs said:
Sorry, just re read.. You not under a hospital...

You must get a hospital to get a pump...
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i know that ;) i'm going back to the hospital when they've sent me new appointment as i went there the other day to sort it all out as i need to be seen.
other then that i guess i can fund one
 
At the end of the day, if you want a pump, you have to be committed. The fact that you didn't even know your own insulin that you take just shows a worrying disregard to the importance of good control.
I have a pump. Have done for 8 years. But I was on a waiting list for 4 years in total.
It is hard work. Lots of blood testing, double checking everything and more importantly, a sound knowledge of carb counting and the will to get things right.
You cannot blame the doctors for your own disregard. If they see that you have this attitude to your diabetes, then how are they supposed to help you? It's your responsibility to make sure that you at least try and get your diabetes under control, not the doctors.
Don't get me wrong, I've had 3 cases of DKA on the pump and I've struggled with my doctors, but that hasn't stopped me getting back good control of my diabetes.
 
Just prove to the HOSP that you can commit to one and meet the criteria of NICE.

Honestly, if you can't handle me giving you straight truths of a pump and criteria to get one, then whether you get nhs or funding yourself (£3500 basic plus sets, tubes n cartridges etc) and no back up from hospital staff... Well just think on getting yourself through the NICE criteria with good, valid reasons for your NEED to have a pump. They are not cheap, glad you can afford to self fund, I certainly couldn't.

I am not trying to put up barriers, just trying to get you to read the NICE guidelines and come up with good, valid reasons why you need a pump. I know it appears I'm giving you a hard time, but it really to just make you realise if you haven't looked after yourself for a number of years, not done everything etc, then you are not going to be top of the queue.

Sure, if you can self fund, do it. Don't expect any help from NHS staff for training etc.
 
Dashing. said:
what makes me want a pump is that it's there and it's constantly a reminder for me to do my injections ect, it's also alot more easier for when i'm in work and will benift me more imo.

Other then not getting one on the nhs i will buy my own :>
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How exactly are you going to purchase a pump? They are prescription only, which means a GP or consultant will have to put their name to it or in other words take responsibility for over seeing it. No sane medical professional would do that and pump reps do not do home visits these days so the set up would have to be done in a hospital or GP practice. Bottom line is you are stuck, which inmho is a good thing because your outstanding lack of knowledge and care of your diabetes will put you in an early grave if you attempted to use a pump.
Perhaps learn the basics first, buy yourself the books using insulin and think like a pancreas(amazon) You have to control your diabetes not your diabetes control you.
 
CarbsRok said:
How exactly are you going to purchase a pump? They are prescription only, which means a GP or consultant will have to put their name to it or in other words take responsibility for over seeing it. No sane medical professional would do that and pump reps do not do home visits these days so the set up would have to be done in a hospital or GP practice. Bottom line is you are stuck, which inmho is a good thing because your outstanding lack of knowledge and care of your diabetes will put you in an early grave if you attempted to use a pump.
Perhaps learn the basics first, buy yourself the books using insulin and think like a pancreas(amazon) You have to control your diabetes not your diabetes control you.
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So basic exact words. Just what I been trying to say!!
 
ok it's time for me to set my self straight and get actually controlled and understanding ect i'm going to prentend i just got diagnosed and go from there, as it's easier that way for me :D
 
You have to find your own way, as an annual check up etc is never going to keep you good unless you look after yourself. Your life, your health,, NHS is a bonus, not to be taken for granted.

@CarbsRok info is spot on.

On the positive.. @Nicolanne1994 has managed her pump, after, I would say, a very difficult start. She's more your age than me.

I certainly don't want you in any difficulties..

1) start from basics.. Good idea!
2) go back to hosp
3) do everything you can to research pumps
4) checkout NICE criteria
5) talk to your health teams, keep your appointments
5) complete Dalne course
Then re consider pumps....
 
I've also wanted a pump since I was diagnosed in 2011, turns out I can't have one yet as I don't test enough :( how depressing.
 
Robertmillardbrace said:
I've also wanted a pump since I was diagnosed in 2011, turns out I can't have one yet as I don't test enough :( how depressing.
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Why is that depressing? You have been told you need to test more so you can have a pump so that's an easy requirement to fulfil I would have thought.
 
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