lucylocket61
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Where will we get the oxtail from if the cattle numbers are reduced by 80%?We don't need milk - good old fashioned oxtail is just as good a source of calcium if prepared in the right way.
Where will we get the oxtail from if the cattle numbers are reduced by 80%?We don't need milk - good old fashioned oxtail is just as good a source of calcium if prepared in the right way.
When I lived in the UK pre 1970, they came from Bechuanaland in Africa in the shops where I worked at, not many fresh local tails about.Where will we get the oxtail from if the cattle numbers are reduced by 80%?
When I lived in the UK pre 1970, they came from Bechuanaland in Africa in the shops where I worked at, not many fresh local tails about.
Australia exports offal including oxtail
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I am not aware that anyone, of any age, has voted for this. The decisions have been made globally without asking any of the populace of any country.and those Young un's voting for this, won't care..I didn't/.
You know we Love referendum-mums Then we would know how the turkeys feel about Christmas. Mabe thats the idea?I am not aware that anyone, of any age, has voted for this. The decisions have been made globally without asking any of the populace of any country.
Botswana (Bechuanaland) is a prosperous country last time I looked at Wikipedia.But most lilely to be banned and/or way too expensive.
result..farmers on SA going under.
Bread basket to basket case easily done as Mugabe proved so eloquently
Yes, but my point still stands that the general public have not been asked about this legislation or given a say before it came about.You know we Love referendum-mums Then we would know how the turkeys feel about Christmas. Mabe thats the idea?
When you find out that 79 of the top 80 world environmental scientists who authored the Eat Lancet Global Diet plan are either vegetarian or vegan, then you know where its coming from and that it has been planned for decades.
I've skim-read through that rather long article and I couldn't find the part that relates to the question of whether soy is toxic to cows - could you quote the pertinent parts for me, please?
The article discusses another aspect of the debate that is pertinent to the thread. We are both capable of reading the entry in wikipedia that you have already posted here. You have ovbiously not read my commentary either that there is an obvious economic reason why farmers do not feed soya to ruminants and the question of it being toxic or not is not so relevant. It is IMHO cruel to feed cattle on soy since it causes distress.I've skim-read through that rather long article and I couldn't find the part that relates to the question of whether soy is toxic to cows - could you quote the pertinent parts for me, please?
Ah, OK. I was only responding to the assertion that soy was toxic and thought that your reply was addressing that.The article discusses another aspect of the debate that is pertinent to the thread. We are both capable of reading the entry in wikipedia that you have already posted here. You have ovbiously not read my commentary either that there is an obvious economic reason why farmers do not feed soya to ruminants and the question of it being toxic or not is not so relevant. It is IMHO cruel to feed cattle on soy since it causes distress.
The argument is over the claims being pushed in the media and apecifically the article in the Guardian today that soy is imported to feed the cows and those things i said here since explain why it is incorrect.
3 lbs of soya bean per cow per day is the highest safe level. That is a very small proportion of the cows diet. And less is better, especially in grass fed pasture cattle which we have in the UK.Ah, OK. I was only responding to the assertion that soy was toxic and thought that your reply was addressing that.
I've been working with nutritionists in Malawi, one said at a recent meeting "we've tried 50 years of vegetarianism and it hasn't worked for us", i hate (with a passion) the pressure to make climate change an individual responsibility when it's a political responsibility. telling me to shoulder the burden, let alone people who are malnourished, that it's "up to me" is disingenuous. this is a failure of leadership not a "personal choice".
I can't see the information about the red meat levy.I wasn;t aware of it but apparently the Environment Bill 2020 was passed yesterday.
https://services.parliament.uk/bills/2019-20/environment.html
first read shows changes to legislation and enforcement coming, but does not seem to cover the land reassignment issue. will curb open fires and home heating issues, but not GHG per se.
There was no mention, no discussion of its contents in any of the media.
The Agriculture Bill 2020 is due for voting on next week apparently.
https://services.parliament.uk/bills/2019-20/agriculture.html
Have not read this so not able to comment yet.
Edit: introduces a Red Meat Levy and new regulations on the use of fertilisers.
The energy bill is still being put together
https://assets.publishing.service.g...e/774235/national_energy_and_climate_plan.pdf
Apparently Nuclear energy is out, tidal is not viable for 2050 target, so biomass is king. Electric car infrastructure needs are discussed but not the power distribution requirements to support it.