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Angry pensioner

yvonneees

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Being a pensioner and type 2 diabetes. I receive £130 weekly pension. No other help. I would like to know the reason why.

Sometimes when I am out I may get a little hypo. Yes, I have my glucose sweets. Sometimes tho' it helps to buy a sandwich and a sweet cuppa. Now, all this money mounts up and is taken out of my weekly pension. Through no fault of my own I have diabetes. So why then do obese people and alcoholics and druggies be allowed extra cash weekly.
Where is the logic in all this?

I am supposed to get regular exercise. Ok then but it still costs a cuppa and a bite to eat or maybe I should stay home waiting to rot!!!

The government need to look at this because I think the need a good boot up the rear end.
 
Hi Yes i agree the thing is diabetes is not taken seriously people don't understand, i am a type 1 and if i go out 9 times out of 10 i would have to get myself a snack to keep me going which like you say costs money and then to top it off you are told to do exercise and to keep active but if you do that its costs money so your damed if you do and your damed if you don't.

tracey167
 
yvonneees said:
Being a pensioner and type 2 diabetes. I receive £130 weekly pension. No other help. I would like to know the reason why.

Sometimes when I am out I may get a little hypo. Yes, I have my glucose sweets. Sometimes tho' it helps to buy a sandwich and a sweet cuppa. Now, all this money mounts up and is taken out of my weekly pension. Through no fault of my own I have diabetes. So why then do obese people and alcoholics and druggies be allowed extra cash weekly.
Where is the logic in all this?

I am supposed to get regular exercise. Ok then but it still costs a cuppa and a bite to eat or maybe I should stay home waiting to rot!!!

The government need to look at this because I think the need a good boot up the rear end.

Even though im 22 and not in your position i still 100% agree!! i work alongside people who have been out of employment for a long time. some people of which refuse to get a job because they don't have to because everything is handed on a plate!!!

And it's true people with alcohol and drug dependancies do get extra allowances for this.

Then there are people who have worked their butts off all their working years and get not a penny in something so simple which would make a great improvement in life!!

If i ever meet you remind me to treat you to a cup of tea and a sandwich!! :)
 
I know what you are saying, i'm a pensioner too but i never go out without a banana and i also buy a packet of Low GI Meusli bars and take one of those too. You need a small snack every 2 hrs.. I think the way that Diabetes is being presented by the media gives people the idea that we are all in this because of our addiction to food and alcohol, overweight morons who are costing the Governments pots of money. Well me personally and i suspect most of us have never been overweight or alcoholic, It should be stated that very slim people can also become Diabetic. Good luck with your snacks.
 
Yes yvonneees I agree with you 10% but don't expect any extra money just yet will you, with all the cuts the government is having to make to get the Country out of the red I don't see any more money going diabetics way, in fact it will probably get even harder for T2's to get test strips soon as PCT's are asked to economise :cry:
 
I am T1..so i am ignorant of teh detaisl of T2, so apologies if the answer to thsi question is a resounding NO!!

I am surprised that you need to treat hypos on such a regular basis...to be this implies that maybe you need to look at why you get them so frequently, reduce this cause, and thus reducing teh sweet cuppa bill?

Agree 100% though that yours is deserving case!
 
Hi Yvonees.
I am a type 2 pensioner as well and I know how hard it is to make ends meet .Have you tried to get other allowances such as pension credit? There are lots of pensioners who havent claimed all that they are entitled to.The forms are not too difficult to fill in and Age concern will help or put you in touch with some one to help.
CAROL
 
carty said:
Hi Yvonees.
I am a type 2 pensioner as well and I know how hard it is to make ends meet .Have you tried to get other allowances such as pension credit? There are lots of pensioners who havent claimed all that they are entitled to.The forms are not too difficult to fill in and Age concern will help or put you in touch with some one to help.
CAROL

Great advice Carol, 6 weeks ago my mother had a stroke and I contacted Age Concern to assist with form filling and some general advice, I can't thank them enough for the time and care they showed towards my mother! :)

Nigel
 
Hi Yvonees, Just to add a note about pensioners credit which I get, it is only about £10 added to my pension but because of that I can get a LOT of things completely free. Can't think of anything specifically to quote to you but am constantly surprised at how many things I would otherwise have to pay for or some portion of the cost involved. Well worth the trouble in finding out.
You can get help from Age Concern in filling out forms. I consider myself to be a quite intelligent person but they know how to fill forms out to gain the best advantage as they did when I applied for the disability allowance. They were brilliant! :D
 
I'm a pensioneer too, but i do have a small occupational pension on top of tthe State one. I buy my own test strips out of that money. I carry glucotabs in my pocket, but have only rarely needed them. I walk a LOT, but even though i keep bg down tight, I fin d it goes UP with exercise. I hit 6.7 today after the gym, which to me is unacceptable.
The big beef I have with the government is that smokers get help free to get off the weed.
I can't have strips! I didn't choose diabetes, they chose tobacco. I go to LocalHealth authority meetings and there the efficacy of the Sttop Smoking campqaigns is always trumpeted. However, in my area, fewer than half the diabetics can hit an Hba1c below 8%.
In fact when I met the DSN sister from the clinic at a meeting, she questioned whether I am actually diabetic with an HbA1c in the 5%s, as she rarely sees one below 8%
I guess strips might save the PCT as much money as "stop smoking" supplies.
 
yvonneees said:
So why then do obese people and alcoholics and druggies be allowed extra cash weekly.

Sometimes I simply can't believe what I'm reading.
Is there anyone else you like to paint with the same brush whilst your at it?
As a T2, if you're experiencing 'true' hypos on a regular basis then you really should get a better grip on your control.
 
I do get fed up with the attitude of some people .. I really do.

Some of the overweight got that way by inappropriate prescribing of T2 anti diabetes meds and I was one of those. I knew there was some kind of problem as the weight gain only became a problem after being diagnosed a T2 from 'pre-diabetic' which now I know better is a catorgory that should not exist.
After many years I am now on a different anti diabetes regimen and the weight has been reducing, but before then I was branded as a 'fattie' and it really bit into me.

Do people really believe the plump person actually enjoys being that way?? I didn't and there was always the slimmer younger me screaming to be allowed out!

Then there is the statement "you should exercise more" ... all well and good for those who actually are ABLE to exercise. I wonder how many people (again like me) need to take really strong sublingual analgesics 30mins before they rise from bed, just so they CAN rise from bed.

I notice that "Angry Pensioner" receives £130 pension .. but the single state pension is £95.25 a week (at least I think that is what I get), so they must already being getting a top-up. Surely if claiming a top-up to their pension, their savings must be less than £6,000 so should be able to claim other benefits available such as council tax and rent rebate etc ...and this is better than it was few years ago as now there is the free bus travel for the over 60's which is as good as an increase to the state pension.... well, to me it is as it saves me a few pence over £9.50 return to the City for my regular visits to hospital clinics and the main library.

My advice is stop feeling sorry for yourself and get motivated enough to go and get some qualified advice about what else is available .. and make sure you have a drink and a suitable snack with you until you get those hypo inducing meds sorted out, because they wont sort themselves out... life just ain't like that!
 
Hi yvoneees,

I would like to say that your pension of £130 a week is more than i get off the social to live on and i have 2 children. If i am out and need something to eat to treat my hypo, like all diabetics, i have to pay and yes it still comes out of my weekly money. I ensure that i do have my hypo treatments with me but obviously there are times when i might need something substantial.

There are things that you could do like getting proper advice if you are having a lot of hypos.

So really don't moan about something that you cannot change because you may think that you are a poor pensioner but there are some of us who have to deal with the same problems an less money than you!!!!!!!!!
 
Thank you for your comments. I think all us diabetics should stand together and ask the government WHY? can't we claim disability, do we all have to wait until our legs drop off.It is a disabling disease and not like drug addicts and alcoholics we did not bring on diabetes ourselves. No offense meant to drug addicts and alcoholics, we all have our cross to bear.
When I first got married 1965 raising my children, I went back to work. However, I did not pay the full stamp. My state pension therefore is small, and it has to be made up with pension credit. I find it extremely difficult to manage like any one else on pension credit ...
 
yvonneees said:
Thank you for your comments. I think all us diabetics should stand together and ask the government WHY? can't we claim disability, do we all have to wait until our legs drop off.It is a disabling disease and not like drug addicts and alcoholics we did not bring on diabetes ourselves. No offense meant to drug addicts and alcoholics, we all have our cross to bear.

Why shouldn't diabetics get disability? Simply because the vast majority of us aren't disabled!
Yes, we have to manage a condition, but if we manage it successfully, we should be relatively healthy, or try to be. The problems come when diabetes is not managed successfully, often due to no fault of the person concerned, but sometimes it has to be said, because the patient won't take responsibility for their own condition.....trying to keep your BG within the guidelines for instance.
However that's when troubles may start - nerve damage, eye problems etc, and if someone is genuinely unable to get around without huge difficulty, then is when the state should be asked to help out.

It's not easy to always be able to manage your diabetes and I imagine that no diabetic of any type will disagree with that.

I have a form of arthritis and other medical issues which causes me to have flare ups every now and then. During a flare-up I am in great pain, may not be able to get out of bed easily, totally unable to get out of the bath, and can only walk a short distance. Add this to the overwhelming fatigue and other associated problems I have, and life is not easy for that space of time - however I do NOT consider myself disabled.
I will eventually get through the worst of the flare-up albeit it with a vast concoction of drugs and painkillers and try and live as normal a life as possible. I live with pain every single minute of every day, but in comparison to my friend who has been in a wheelchair all her life, I consider myself realatively lucky.
There are people suffering out there with a true disabilty and to put the vast majority of diabetics in that category is doing the sick and disabled a huge disservice in my opinion.

What we need is more help and information to manage our condition as best we can, both from our GP's and nurses, and also for those who want them and cannot afford to buy them themselves, test strips on prescription.

Surely, and I don't mean this an a callous way at all, so forgive me if my post seems like it is harsh, you can arrange to always keep a small snack in your handbag in case of need? That would save you the cost of a snack. Walking is one of the best forms of exercise and very helpful in lowering blood sugars too, so a small walk can only be beneficial too.
I do agree with others in that perhaps if you are getting numerous hypos, you may need to have a look at your diet and small changes may make a big difference in the way you feel. I do hope so.

I do understand where you are coming from as it often appears that those who seem to have brought illness and dependency upon themselves, ie alcoholics and drug users, seem to get more help than us diabetics.
However, public finances are limited, and many people really struggle in getting help with their very real physical and mental disabilities, and to try and add merely a diagnosis of diabetes as a disability is unwarranted, unless of course there are also other complications.

Also, I do hope you are getting everything you are entitled to as a pensioner. I worry about people like myself who will have to be 67 before we might or might not even get a pension to see us through our senior years. :(
 
Have you checked with the pensions dept to see if you are getting the additional state pension?

The Additional State Pension is an extra amount of money you could get with your basic State Pension. It’s based on your National Insurance contributions.

How much you get depends on your earnings and whether you’ve claimed certain benefits. There is no fixed amount like the basic State Pension.

You get the Additional State Pension automatically, unless you’ve contracted out of it.

The Additional State Pension is paid with your basic State Pension. It normally increases every year by prices - the percentage growth in prices in the UK as measured by the Consumer Prices Index (CPI).
 
I'm a pensioner with an occupational pension as well as my state one. It's not a huge amount, but I'm not poor, however if I go hiking, there's usually nowhere to get a cuppa. I carry a water bottle. I don't get hypos, so I don't need to carry food unless I'm going to be out for a long time. then I pack a carefully planned picnic. buying tea and coffee has become very expensive and I'd find it maddening if I could no longer afford it, but I do make sure I'm organised before I go anywhere.
Hana
Ps my T1 husband carries a backpack with his waterproof jacket and a bottle of lucozade wherever he goes.
 
This post is actually quite maddening! If there is regular hypos then this is through no fault of the people who pay out pensions. I don't like people to feel sorry for me and I certainly don't expect the government to class me as having a disability just so I can claim money that quite frankly, most people do not need if they have good control. There are plenty of deserving people of disability benefits that actually do not receive them! Why is it that quite a number of diabetics feel that they are owed something. The answer to your post is to take out a sandwich from home if hypos are an issue. Much cheaper than buying from a shop.
No offence intended but it's actually quite a ridiculous thing to post.


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The OP seems not to be on any meds now so shouldnt need to spend money on sandwiches and sweet drinks I know managing on pension is hard but we are not disabled by having type 2 diabetes
CAROL
 
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