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Chriisz

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First of all, hello,

Thank you for taking the time to read. Straight into it:

So I am not diabetic, but have never been tested. Always have been slightly unsure as I am highly sensitive to sugar.

My question really is... Can you make sense of this and help give me an indication as to why:

I am fit and healthy, a slim, built 30 year old that eats relatively well, who does eat cheat foods at the weekends.
I have tried many different diets and supplements.

However some foods cause me to become extremely fatigued, brain fogged and almost a feeling of zero energy.

These are the main culprits that I have had some serious fatigue with in high amounts:

Green Matcha Tea
Alot of cinnamon
Beta alanine
Berberine
Bitter melon
Alpha Lipoic Acid

I know my stuff with supps.. but it's just hit my simple mind.. that all of these collectively are known and used to lower and control blood sugars (except beta alanine that I'm not sure about)

And something I can't explain, is that when I have used these, my hair turns visibly thinner as if it's falling out.. but it's not any more than normal.

Maybe this is hypoglycemia but I'm not looking to diagnose myself with something that I may not have.
So I don't want anyone trying to scare me, but maybe hit me with a few experienced comments to help me understand this.

My worst moment was with alpha lipoic acid which after a few days my hair looked like it had taken a heating and I felt so drained


Thank you,

Many doctors I find are lacking knowledge with this so hopefully there may be a few that know more here.

Chris
 
so, dont eat higher amounts of those foods. or supplements or whatever they are.

Chriisz said:
And something I can't explain, is that when I have used these, my hair turns visibly thinner
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how can your hair become thinner without hair loss? the individual strands dont lose weight.
 
I’m not an expert on the properties of the items you listed. (I haven’t heard of most of them). However, given your concerns it may be worth a trip to the GP, and ask for a blood test- it isn’t just a test for diabetes, but tests the function of all your major organs.
 
May I ask why you take all of these supplements, and given that you have listed those with negative effects are you taking more supplents that you feel have a more positive affect?
 
Firstly I don't know how my hair looks thinner without major shedding but it does. It's almost like the strands thin down but I don't understand how it works.

Guzzler I don't take them anymore, but mainly because when I eat high sugar diets I feel extremely fatigued, so I thought I would eat well and help control my blood sugars.

Turns out I'm super fatigued with too much sugar as well as too little.

It's such a complex subject with so many people reacting differently
 
Chriisz said:
Firstly I don't know how my hair looks thinner without major shedding but it does. It's almost like the strands thin down but I don't understand how it works.

Guzzler I don't take them anymore, but mainly because when I eat high sugar diets I feel extremely fatigued, so I thought I would eat well and help control my blood sugars.

Turns out I'm super fatigued with too much sugar as well as too little.

It's such a complex subject with so many people reacting differently
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I suggest you talk this over with your GP.

Reducing your sugar intake shouldn't make you feel rotten, do you use a glucometer at home?
 
Nope

Like I say I am not diagnosed with anything
I had extensive blood work done a year ago and they found nothing, then again they told me to fast so a blood sugar test will probably pass.

My GPs seem useless on this stuff tbh hence why I came here
 
Chriisz said:
Nope

Like I say I am not diagnosed with anything
I had extensive blood work done a year ago and they found nothing, then again they told me to fast so a blood sugar test will probably pass.

My GPs seem useless on this stuff tbh hence why I came here
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When you have tests for blood glucose levels fasted anomalies still show up.
To clarify, your symptoms are fatigue, brain fog and negative reactions to high or low levels of sugar in your diet?
Perhaps you could start a food diary. This is invaluable to many members here. Write down what you eat, when you eat it and your experiences at the end. Use a score of 0-10 for each of your symptoms. You may have some intolerances that will be shown by building up patterns over time.
 
Yeah? That's good news then.

Maybe I'm just highly sensitive to blood sugar chsnges.

I kind of do to be honest, hence why I can remember all of these foods or supps
 
Might be worthwhile investing in a blood glucose meter and 50 test strips, then over a week or so test before meals, 2 hours after, upon waking, at weekends when you eat those cheat foods, etc and get a feel for what your bloods are doing. Or even better a Libre flash meter also available in the shops, it gives continuous bloods over a 14 day period. Record what you eat/exercise and track against blood sugar measurements.

Sounds like you just had a one-off hba1c test before, but that only shows average bloods but not highs and lows.

And if you've already identified some foods / supplements that disagree with you then for sure cut these out or moderate them regardless.
 
Ok, all this blood stuff scares me because I'm a huge wuss when it comes to blood and injections

I know I'm in the wrong place to complain about that too haha.
 
Hi, until, like others have suggested, you use a blood glucose monitor can you actually see what happens to your blood glucose after food.
Having non diabetic levels when doing fasting or hba1c tests does not mean that you don't have metabolic conditions.
You just don't know if you have any intolerance to certain foods either.
Keeping a food diary and testing will let you gain knowledge of how your body works.
If you suspect that something is going on, why not only test pre meal, one hour, two hours and three hours post prandial.
But do talk to your GP, because we don't have your medical history or your family history.
I can't believe that you need or have been advised to take all those supplements!
You should only take supplements when advised by a GP after tests are done.
Your diet should and will give you all the nutritional needs your body will ever need.
But your diet should include protein, good fats and a modicum of carbs sufficient for your lifestyle.
 
You're not the first to go through that fear. I watched who I thought were "heroes" in primary school petrified at polio injections and passing out when they got nearer the line. Me? Big deal

Ain't gonna kill ya
 
Chriisz said:
Nope

Like I say I am not diagnosed with anything
I had extensive blood work done a year ago and they found nothing, then again they told me to fast so a blood sugar test will probably pass.

My GPs seem useless on this stuff tbh hence why I came here
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If anyone does end up with a GP they cannot converse with then blood tests don't lie.
Youre not diabetic but intolerate to some foods. Eliminate those foods and supplement.

Thanks for thinking of us thou.
 
I completely get why people go in search of superfoods and supplements- we are hard wired to search for such panaceas. I went looking as well and for 2 weeks mixed ground cinnamon in my coffee- I stopped when I decided that it wasn’t a taste combo I was going to acquire. I still have some in my twice weekly porridge treat, but only because I like it.
As for the rest, the simplest solutions are often the best. Veg, plenty of it, bit of fruit, lots of eggs, regular meat level, nuts, and stay off the beige stuff. Lots of water. Works for me and no funny powder.
I’m not being critical- everyone needs to find a diet that works for them: but if you are at all suspicious about what these products are doing to you then cut them all out and either keep them cut or reintroduce one at a time so you can at least work out which is causing the problem.
 
Hi @Chriisz, Could you explain why you chose to take the supplements you list in the first place ?
And what your past high sugar and low sugar diets consist of ? This information might help someone to suggest what might be happening or what test they know of that might help.
From my own experience as a diabetic and patient, and not as health professional advice or opinion:
I know that my doctor routinely questions me about thinning hair (even as I age !) because, as he explained, sometimes that is a sign of under-active thyroid, and I do have thyroid problems in my family. The pattern of blood sugars results measured at intervals after meals for persons with under-active thyroid condition can be quite different to normal or diabetics, he also told me.
I am intolerant to A1 cow's milk, which shows up with nasal and bronchial congestion (so quite unlike what you note after certain foods and the supplements) BUT also my intolerance symptoms show up a day or so later.
Some persons I have spoken with, and others I have read about, develop certain symptoms starting maybe 3 1/2 to about 5 hours after a meal containing lots of carbohydrate (anything from bread to potato to table sugar etc) in it.
Still others feel unwell one hour after some food with normal blood sugar readings seen at intervals after eating..
As others have said, avoidance of things that appear to upset you seems wise. Allergy specialists tend to see persons with food intolerances, if you are seeking further medical help. And, based on the third paragraph above, you might wish to check whether your doctor has tested you for underactive thyroid.
I hope you find some answers and solutions to your problem.
 
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