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Are we losing the plot?

Discussion in 'Ask A Question' started by AndBreathe, Oct 6, 2014.

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  1. AndBreathe

    AndBreathe I reversed my Type 2 · Expert
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    Like a padded cell? o_O
     
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    paul-1976 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Basement area fight club perhaps?
     
  3. Pipp

    Pipp Type 2 · Expert
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    Ok
    What does the forum think?
    This member thinks that there is often disharmony that can be off putting.
    So members seem to have an agenda.
    Some members who try to offer genuine help are discouraged by personal attacks, and differences of opinion turning into conflict.
    Most members try to help, but some are very 'blinkered' and not prepared to see another point of view.

    What could we do to improve matters?
    Be prepared to engage in 'dialogue' rather than 'debate'. That way we learn from each other.
    If someone has a different opinion to one's own, don't take it personally.
    'Do as you would be done by'. Respond to posts as you would like others to respond to you. Show respect to poster. If they are disrespectful, ignore them.

    Do we want our moderators to help us?
    All that is needed is for the forum rules to be upheld by all. Moderators should oversee this, and be consistent in ensuring conduct adheres to forum rules.



    Just my opinion, though. Not got a problem if anyone disagrees.
     
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  4. Heathenlass

    Heathenlass Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    AKA " The War Zone" ;):rolleyes:

    Signy
     
  5. Lamont D

    Lamont D Reactive hypoglycemia · Master

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    [QUOTE="Andrew Colvin, post: 647351, member:
    How about call it the "Diabetes Lifestyle Debate Sub Forum". [/QUOTE]

    How about speaking in English, mate?
    That's too tech for some of us scousers!

    Is that a forum which submariners answer?
     
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  6. andcol

    andcol I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member
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    you got it ;)
     
  7. uncle

    uncle Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Just a thought
    Maybe the negative posters are not controlling their BG and it's the diabetes that make them pedantic or just plain miserable
     
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    andcol I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member
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    ok - how about LCHF vs Low GI Forum. That is what all the arguments are always about so just let peeps get it off their chest in one place and @Giverny can write a script to delete the sub-forum every hour or the server would fill up and bring the forum down ;)
     
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  9. Pipp

    Pipp Type 2 · Expert
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    How about speaking in English, mate?
    That's too tech for some of us scousers!

    Is that a forum which submariners answer?[/QUOTE]

    Well yes he did suggest looking at his ships not his belly button! This scouse noticed that.

    Sorry @Andrew Colvin that was not very respectful of me!
     
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    andcol I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member
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    Did I lol - wondered why nosher wrote that rofl well that would stop the arguements as well
     
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  11. Pipp

    Pipp Type 2 · Expert
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    What about the minority group, Newcastle dieters? We get a pounding from the critics on here.
     
  12. Heathenlass

    Heathenlass Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Oddly enough, one of the things that truly winds me up when I'm righteously ( as always!) argumentative is someone asking if my BG's are ok :D

    Signy
     
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  13. Lamont D

    Lamont D Reactive hypoglycemia · Master

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    Is Rolf the submariner? Lol!
     
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    pavlosn Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    There is so much that we are all agreed on regarding what makes an effective diabetic treatment, the need to exercise more, the need to improve diet reducing intake of highly processed food, the need to lose weight.

    We are all agreed on the role of carbohydrates on glucose levels and on how reducing the intake of carbohydrates to a lower or greater degree is key in good glycemic control ( at least to the non insulin dependent and probably to those as well ).

    We probably all agree on the importance of testing as a means of learning about the effect of different foods have on our control and how we should use this to guide us on how much we need to reduce carbs by to achieve our desired glucose level.

    In fact as far as I can see just about the only disagreements are regarding the degree that carbs should be reduced rather than substituted for lower GI alternatives and on whether the reduction in carbs should be just a result of reducing overall calorific intake at the NHS recommended carbs to fats to proteins ratio or it should be the result of substituting fats for carbs.

    Yet read a lot of threads and the relative importance of what we are agreed on seems lost in the endless arguments regarding the few matters we disagree on.

    Personally I am glad to hear that people have managed to reach control through different paths and are feeling strong enough about their solution to argue about it. It means that there are more options available, more alternatives I can try if I fail with my initial approach. So perhaps our differences should be pointed out as a positive rather than a negative.

    By the way I have been a member of this forum since 2009 and if memory serves arguments were a lot worse then.
     
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    Are you sure? ;)
     
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    Pipp Type 2 · Expert
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    Oh, I hope they are. Don't like to ask.
     
  17. Heathenlass

    Heathenlass Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    *Growls ...*
     
  18. Lamont D

    Lamont D Reactive hypoglycemia · Master

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    Seriously!
    Having a particular label on threads would help. @Brunneria asked @Giverny to create a sub forum for RH and hypoglycaemia. I don't know wether she even got a reply.
    We have the basics on the greetings home page, but if you wanted to ask a question regarding thyroid problems how would we know if it wasn't in the title or do we have to read every post?
     
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    andcol I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member
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    @pavlosn what you have written is so true and I must agree that when I read the discussions that people get heated over there does always seem to be so little difference. It all reminds me of a story by Dr Seuss called the sneetches.

    Fortunately, I am too thick skinned or is it too slow to realise people are spoiling for a fight
     
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  20. Pipp

    Pipp Type 2 · Expert
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    Yes, I looked in several years ago, and the animosity from some members discouraged me from posting. I have seen new members discouraged in this way recently. It is shameful.
     
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