Plumbdot68
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Did you know that the mortality rate 0.26 but they won’t tell you that in the media . They are the real VIRUS..
Whatever 'normal' is. My wife has been playing tennis and golf since they could and I thought I'd try and get back into playing some golf as well.
I might be over cautious, so what, there's nothing wrong in that, it's better than throwing caution to the wind. What I saw this morning was a lot of people, not wearing masks and apart from not being able to use the club house for refreshments and having to 'checkin' through a window, rather than queue up in the pro shop, it was like nothing was wrong. There was certainly no social distancing and I was wondering "has this virus lost it's strength or aren't people breathing out like they used to".
There doesn't seem to be a common approach, I notice that even our local bus drivers are working without any protection and they must face many members of the public, without having a clue about their general health. As long ago as May 13th they were saying 33 London bus drivers have died. What that figure must be like nationwide, who knows. I understand the need to 'get the economy going' but shouldn't there be greater use of masks.
Whinge over. Stay safe everyone, take care.
Unfortunately our starter guy was one of the biggest offenders. He's well into his 80s so probably more at risk if he goes down with this thing.
I am interested that some, like my wife, are quite happy in considering degrees of risk and this is possibly where I have a problem, I don't want any risk.
I'm not totally happy that HID is playing tennis and golf when there is some risk. I've been telling people she'll be the death of me for years LOLOLOL Let's hope not. If I fall ill, I'll send you her eMail address.
Did you know that the mortality rate 0.26 but they won’t tell you that in the media . They are the real VIRUS..Making personal decisions is all well and good to a point.
But if too many people make reckless or fatalistic decisions and raise the incidence and R rates then it effects everyone, including those more vulnerable and risk averse. It prolongs the time that health and economy are adversely effected making the whole thing worse and last longer. Having people invade personal space in public both increases risk and anxiety. Just because you don’t worry doesn’t mean everyone else feels the same. Mental health is a major consideration in the lifting of lockdown as well as it’s continuation.
Bit of a selfish “I’m all right jack“ attitude when it impacts others. A little bit of consideration goes a long way.
Kind of like smoking. When your actions effect others then you need to be more considerate. If they don’t then fill your boots.
These viruses have only gone up since they introduced vaccinations. Re-search it...I am still careful as to where I go and who I see as my OH has various health issues including heart problems, asthma and Parkinson’s which we believe makes him very vulnerable but he has not got a shielding letter so he is still working. However Covid-19 is a new disease which is likely to be with us for a long time and is, therefore, something that we may have to learn to live with just as our parents and grandparents did with the likes of Smallpox, Polio and Typhoid etc until a vaccine is found.
Wake up please. The only virus is the media...Iv never stopped working right through 'Self Isolation'
March to now must have been the busiest Iv ever been as a bathroom fitter and Iv still got months worth of work booked in. It has been crazy but not been at the footy 3-4 times a week Iv saved loads aswell
'Self Isolation' has definitely been lifted too early. You look at the figures and we have one of the highest death rates. Our government have dealt with it so badly. We needed a full lockdown like other countries but we failed to do that as the government wanted money to still be ticking over in certain sectors.
People like my mate have had it and he didn't even have one symptom but only got tested as his work shut down with others getting it and the factory having to shut for 2 weeks cleaning and staff testing.
Wake up please. The only virus is the media...
Looks like you guys are pulling in the fringe.Not sure I'd go that far. There's quite clearly a nasty virus doing the rounds but, in my opinion, that's about the extent of it. Definitely not the harbinger of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. That narrative was driven largely by clicks for cash and other vested interests. It will all come out in the wash eventually, but how many people will ever be convinced they overreacted is another matter entirely.
Disclaimer: These are my views only, and are not meant to denigrate those of others.
Did you know that the mortality rate 0.26 but they won’t tell you that in the media . They are the real VIRUS..
Source of that figure would be good please. There are many many stats put out there and without sources how can we evaluate the relevance or accuracy of what you sayDid you know that the mortality rate 0.26 but they won’t tell you that in the media . They are the real VIRUS..
I know of one office in the North of England that has turned off all air conditioning and opened all windows.
You guys who go to pubs and even shopping are so brave!.
Derek
I have supported the economy more than usual since lockdown, judging by my new credit card debt.I have had to run the card up to afford to shop at big supermarkets and buy branded goods because cheaper varieties were not available. I normally shop at Lidl and the open air fruit & veg market. And because of buying a freezer because of the difficulties of getting deliveries in the early days -again more expensive than I wanted because of lockdown shortages. And paid over the odds for hand sanitiser, as again the expensive sort was all I could get.And because I have bought a couple of tins of paint etc and some gardening stuff (seeds+ watering can), which I probably wouldn't have bought without having the extra time on my hands during lockdown. I have saved a bit on coach/plane fares as I have been unable to visit either set of grandchildren, but not on bus fares to the supermarket as I have had to pay delivery charges instead. I imagine that on the whole most people aren't going to eat any less or have any fewer appliance breakdowns than they did before. Trying to avoid the virus causes me to spend more than usual, not less.I find it’s a really difficult balancing act to maintain a life that makes me feel human, to try to avoid catching a virus that may or may not usher me into the big hereafter and to keep an economy that supports us all (and creates unnecessary oodles of wealth for some) going. I am, of course, speaking personally.
I agree that statistics can be created, published and interpreted in a variety of ways to put across the desired message.
In darker moments I, too, think that this virus is likely to be with us for a very long time and it’ll take everyone a while to learn how to either accommodate it or to avoid it.
I wish we knew whether immunity were possible.
I wish we knew the best ways to adapt our lives.
I wish we had a vaccine.
I feel that the measures taken to open up have been given too little independent thought, but I hope I’m wrong.
I suspect we’ll have to live with rolling local lockdowns for a good while to come, especially when people begin travelling further afield,
" In my last working week my employers lied about there being a case of Covid in the building. Fortunately I was extremely cautious on my last shift as later found out the case was on the floor I work on. Since then a third of the residents have died of Covid " I wouldn't be at all surprised if this practice of keeping Covid cases quiet in care homes were not more widespread. After all what would they do if the employees all left as you did?And they couldn't persuade any others to replace them? I applaud & support you absolutely in what you did. You may well owe your life to your wise decision.However the management would be stuck if everyone left. A care home can't just close down like a factory.I do hope you can find a safe job, if only part time, once we have a vaccine.
Thankyou for your reply. I suppose the one advantage of care, certainly the care home i work in ,is that the majority of employees are under 30 and on the whole at lower risk if they get the virus.On the whole they are a very dedicated bunch. They work very hard, some of them 60plus hours a week with poor terms and conditions and no sick pay,all for less than 9.00 HR. Understandably they play hard too, and who would deny them that,their job is both hard and stressful. I think part of my ease at not being their during the crisis was i knew that those less at risk could be.
In some ways lock down was the easy part. I must admit the current situation with the overall feeling of "its all over" is something i find incredibly stressful. I fully acknowledge there is risk in everything we do in life and i am not risk averse at all. Everyone should be able to do whats best for them. Unfortunately I dont feel im in a position to realistically assess the risk. I live in one of the lowest risk areas in the country,well apart from a recent beach invasion! I would feel reasonably comfortable in society etc but work remains a contentious issue. It also seems a situation where support is increasingly erratic. So much seems to be reliant on being on the receiving end of the right employment, the right employer,the right GP. Im not sure what the future holds, but gut instinct is to bide my time and try and find a job where can work from home in the near future.Any suggestions for a middle aged graduate be most welcome!
CDC websiteSource of that figure would be good please. There are many many stats put out there and without sources how can we evaluate the relevance or accuracy of what you say
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