Worthingbloy
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What do you find restrictive about it?.I am really against the idea of Keto diet as it's so restrictive for me
You could go lower carb without being keto. My wife and I share the meals, she is not diabetic so I either leave out the carbs she is having or substitute with something else. Cauliflower for rice, squash for roast potatoes, swede for mash, corgette for pasta etc.Morning all, I've hit a bit of a wall....Quite hard for me to take in...I started at 93kg Type 2 on Metformin (SL).
About 1 year ago I was really doing well, 77kg, stopped the Mets, (Nurse was very happy) lots of endless, endless cardio, carb at around 100g a day, eating around 2000k mostly Rice based carbs. I'd save them up! The odd occasion a bit of toast. So a few comments on my weight lost on how I looked drained and gaunt/ill. I must admit I did look this way and really felt like I had no energy. I was exhausted.... Therefore I starting weight training, focusing on Muscle growth. I finally got my weight to 83kg with less body fat..Marcos @ 170p, 180 Carbs, 90 fats @ 2210, Really felt stronger and alive! In the last couple of months, I've been feeling strange tingling feelings in feet and hand so I thought I'd run some checks, to my horror my fasting tests are 10-11 and around 8-10. at other times. Drs have put me on Mets again! I thought I was doing all the right things, building muscle etc. Nurse is unhappy about weight gain although understanding of my goal. Any ideals, without going to Keto?....I am really against the idea of Keto diet as it's so restrictive for me (I know it works for lots of others, I'm not judging far from it) and in a household of 5, I'm chef chief! As it is I cook everymeal from scratch and the household has already changed their diet to my low end (ish) carb one. Thanks in advance sorry for the long question....
What do you find restrictive about it?
Your current macros are obviously not working for you so maybe we need to address the anti-keto mindset?
Had an HbA1c recently?
You could go lower carb without being keto. My wife and I share the meals, she is not diabetic so I either leave out the carbs she is having or substitute with something else. Cauliflower for rice, squash for roast potatoes, swede for mash, corgette for pasta etc.
I want to show my children that balance and behaviour in diet is key and not cutting out food groups to extreme, taking a apple and a banana/ hummus/carrots for a snack to school instead of a bar of chocolate is a good example of my family approach.
I maintain my blood sugar levels on around 80g of carbs a day. There is a lot of wriggle room between lowering carbs, and going full keto.
You children are not type 2, so healthier foods is great, but the occasional sweet things are fine too. Choices which are too restrictive for them can be counterproductive.
Are you quite a black and white sort of a guy?
Do you have any concerns around eating more fats?
Personally, I love cauliflower florets as a pasta substitute.
There is no reason to fear fats as long as they are not in highly processed high carb foods. Plenty of research on this if you are interested. So you and your family can eat filling meals if you transfer to fat burning instead of carbs, and you can maintain weight if it drops too low by adding more good quality fat.
Maybe look at some of the sites by low carb mums?
And please be careful about saving up carbs - are you checking if these are causing potentially damaging spikes? I found from testing that even though my blood sugars dropped on 100g a day, more than 30g in one meal could cause spikes high enough to be causing nerve/eye damage.
I was cautious too when I was diagnosed 9 years ago. There are lots of threads on here about healthy fats and cholesterol research.def cautious over healthy fats....
The information on keto sites is useful, just eat more carbs than they suggest. There are useful links in my signature, under my posts.Thanks I will see whats around. The mere goggle of low carb takes me straight to keto sites.
Do you know any that are for low carb only 80-120 kind of area?
Ah..this makes sense...I thought saving them after I had a heavy weight training session was the way to go...maybe I should divide them up more...
Yes I did lose quite a lot of weight initially but it stabilised and I have been the same reduced weight for the last 4 years. You could increase the fat in your meals if you are hungry or losing weight, I didn't do that, I just don't avoid fat or have any low fat products.Thanks...did you find your calories went too low and lost weight? Its taken me ages to get to get my weight up. I’m looking at sensible swaps now as you suggested. Actually going for squash today with a roast chicken...great idea thanks
Metformin has a very limited effect on blood sugar levels. Typically full dose 2,000mg a day will give a drop of about 1 or 2 mmol/l at best. It is normally prescribed to diabetics for its cardioprotective properties and a slight reduction in Insulin Resistance.
You appear to be firmly married to the calorie mantra, which is causing conflict in your choice of dietary interventions. Carbs turn into glucose that gets stored in the muscle tissue and skin cells, and lipid fats are stored in the adipocytes such as the liver and in special fat cells. Now the muscle stores supply fast-acting short-term energy such as used by sprinters, but these stores deplete quickly, but lipid energy is long-lasting and is the energy for long distance runners, HIIT and manual labour. Think of running 220 meters race - start off fast, but after a while, there is a hiatus while you wait for the second wind, This is the switchover.
What I am trying to say is that carbs as energy is not very useful and is overrated. Most of the energy we need comes from lipid fat and internally generated lipids which our bodies create from carbs and proteins. Provided you are physically active, you can either increase the fat macro but alternatively can increase the protein to compensate for the reduction in carbs. Increasing fat intake provides saiety and helps stop the carb cravings, but increasing protein will improve muscle and add useful weight. Going full monty on either of these macros is necessary if doing keto diets, but is not needed for just a simple low carb diet but many misinterpret this and overdo the macros.
Yes I did lose quite a lot of weight initially but it stabilised and I have been the same reduced weight for the last 4 years. You could increase the fat in your meals if you are hungry or losing weight, I didn't do that, I just don't avoid fat or have any low fat products.
If you are having butternut squash with your chicken I find it is best if it starts to become a little burnt.
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