JohnEGreen
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Balance magazine - November/December
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Its very interesting isn't it when professionals are given information that goes against what they know, they ignore it.
I come from a family that have a history of heart disease, my dad died at 55. I have high cholesterol and have spent most of my life on a low fat diet, but have not been on statins.
For a foot infection I ended up at the local teaching hospital and got referred to the lipids clinic, so although diabetes was not mentioned, my lipids were still high, I thought I better do something and in doing so found this site and thought as a low fat diet hadn't worked for the last 40 years lets try something different.
So at the lipids clinic they run through my diet, which was at that stage was LF, I could have given the talk myself, I am a nurse, and I needed to lose weight. The fact I didn't over eat, exercised, which they constantly ignore was not addressed.
So I started my LCHF diet, not ultra low carb, but a radical change after a life of low fat. They results are I have lost weight and my cholesterol results are down, not normal but they are consistently lower.
When my consultant reviewed my results he congratulated me, you need to keep it up and lose more weight, I had lost some weight but my results had improved as soon as I went on the LCHF. I said I had been on LCHF diet, and he said absolutely nothing. Which considering I was in a lipids clinic was surprising. As its a teaching hospital, I get every test you can think of , most of results they give me but next year I will ask for the set.
What is also interesting is that my husbands cholesterol results have fallen, as also he has cut his carb consumption but he has not lost weight.
The main thing I have found in using a LCHF diet is I am not as tired, but have become very carb intolerant, if I eat over 15g in one meal its like a drug and I need to sleep.
I think perhaps the way forward is to put a control group who are not diabetic or prediabetic on a LCHF diet and monitor their blood results.
As a nurse who for many years have thought I have understood the mechanics of diabetes, I have had to review everything.
I never realised how difficult it was to monitor carb consumption, its in the smallest letters on any packaging, and how huge the amount of carbs there can be in one meal if you are not aware. So I think the first thing that needs to be done is the carb amount added to any nutritional information printed on the front of packaging. If DiabetesUK can not agree on LCHF, that should be not confrontational. Its amazing that gluten free is seen as a selling point but for most people totally useless information is on the front.
I also think talking about sugar for a lot of people confuses the problem, you tell someone that every that they have to cut out sugar, but everything they eat is converted to sugar, they go 'what do I do? I have to eat.' The whole family is confused, I have heard them in the supermarket buying stuff for granddad.
I have been looking after a child on a very low protein diet, the easiest for most people to understand was she needed X amount of protein evenly spaced though out the day, so her body could cope with it. Its easier to find the protein content than the carb content, but try finding low protein foods.
Perhaps I am being simplistic but until LCHF can be seen as a recognised solution perhaps that a message like you need X amount of unrefined carbs, (sort out the labelling) eaten spaced out though the day, and eat to your meter, if they are lucky enough to have on, is less confrontational. Perhaps the total amount of carbs eaten, will be..The lowering of their BS, should show that eating less carbs is better.
I am at the HCP rock face, so any thoughts appreciated.
I come from a family that have a history of heart disease, my dad died at 55. I have high cholesterol and have spent most of my life on a low fat diet, but have not been on statins.
For a foot infection I ended up at the local teaching hospital and got referred to the lipids clinic, so although diabetes was not mentioned, my lipids were still high, I thought I better do something and in doing so found this site and thought as a low fat diet hadn't worked for the last 40 years lets try something different.
So at the lipids clinic they run through my diet, which was at that stage was LF, I could have given the talk myself, I am a nurse, and I needed to lose weight. The fact I didn't over eat, exercised, which they constantly ignore was not addressed.
So I started my LCHF diet, not ultra low carb, but a radical change after a life of low fat. They results are I have lost weight and my cholesterol results are down, not normal but they are consistently lower.
When my consultant reviewed my results he congratulated me, you need to keep it up and lose more weight, I had lost some weight but my results had improved as soon as I went on the LCHF. I said I had been on LCHF diet, and he said absolutely nothing. Which considering I was in a lipids clinic was surprising. As its a teaching hospital, I get every test you can think of , most of results they give me but next year I will ask for the set.
What is also interesting is that my husbands cholesterol results have fallen, as also he has cut his carb consumption but he has not lost weight.
The main thing I have found in using a LCHF diet is I am not as tired, but have become very carb intolerant, if I eat over 15g in one meal its like a drug and I need to sleep.
I think perhaps the way forward is to put a control group who are not diabetic or prediabetic on a LCHF diet and monitor their blood results.
As a nurse who for many years have thought I have understood the mechanics of diabetes, I have had to review everything.
I never realised how difficult it was to monitor carb consumption, its in the smallest letters on any packaging, and how huge the amount of carbs there can be in one meal if you are not aware. So I think the first thing that needs to be done is the carb amount added to any nutritional information printed on the front of packaging. If DiabetesUK can not agree on LCHF, that should be not confrontational. Its amazing that gluten free is seen as a selling point but for most people totally useless information is on the front.
I also think talking about sugar for a lot of people confuses the problem, you tell someone that every that they have to cut out sugar, but everything they eat is converted to sugar, they go 'what do I do? I have to eat.' The whole family is confused, I have heard them in the supermarket buying stuff for granddad.
I have been looking after a child on a very low protein diet, the easiest for most people to understand was she needed X amount of protein evenly spaced though out the day, so her body could cope with it. Its easier to find the protein content than the carb content, but try finding low protein foods.
Perhaps I am being simplistic but until LCHF can be seen as a recognised solution perhaps that a message like you need X amount of unrefined carbs, (sort out the labelling) eaten spaced out though the day, and eat to your meter, if they are lucky enough to have on, is less confrontational. Perhaps the total amount of carbs eaten, will be..The lowering of their BS, should show that eating less carbs is better.
I am at the HCP rock face, so any thoughts appreciated.
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Well done Ian
Excellent letter
I left DUK last year so no longer receive Balance magazine
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Excellent letter
I left DUK last year so no longer receive Balance magazine
Twice I have written and twice not been published or received any acknowledgement
No response from them means me leaving DUK cancelled my subscription
Au Revoir
