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Becoming a little obsessed

IanBish

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Location
Cardiff
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
After being diagnosed with Type 2 a few months ago, I decided to go low carb, which people here gave great advice on. However, reducing my weight and HBA1C has become my priority. I've become a little obsessed with it all. I've lost over two stone so far, quite effortlessly, but I still have a way to go. Whenever my next test is, I want it to show a much lower HBA1C, mainly for me, but to also show the GP or nurse that low carb works.

I lost quite a bit of weight several years ago, but it just piled back on when I just started eating all the carbohydrates again. With what I've learned recently, I know that the weight will stay off, give or take a few pounds here and there. But before my diagnosis I'd just resigned myself to being fat forever more, with no hope of losing any meaningful weight, because I thought it would be too difficult, and I'd be hungry all the time.

I now know that that isn't true, but I seem to spend an inordinate amount of time thinking about my weight and HBA1C result. What will it be, and why can't I lose weight faster? I know when someone is older it's not that easy compared to when that person was younger. I just need a bit more Vitamin P (Patience) I guess.

Sorry for the rant/moan, and thanks for reading.
 
Don’t be so hard on yourself, you’re doing incredibly well, it’s often said here that this is a marathon not a sprint and it’s so true, I think we all get a bit of obsessive in the beginning as we are learning so fast and implementing big changes. You’ll soon settle down and find your rhythm, it’s good to remind yourself now and then that yeah I’ve done ok!
 
Thanks for the reassuring words. I'm sure I'll settle down. I'd quite like a marathon (snickers) bar right now. Only joking. Yeah, I've done okay so far.
 
we were all you in the beginning, I was obsessive about my readings 7-10 times a day testing everything.
Good readings would put me a great mood, one bad reading could ruin my week, the pressure of the blood draw at the surgery . . . then the wait for the nurse to ring. I was obsessive.

what cured it for me was getting a CGM, seeing how you BG can fluctuate & how fingers pricks were but a second in time.
we get obsessed with this 2 hour mantra yet that only applies to the 75g OGTT & not real world eating.
I've seen plenty of CGMs of non-diabetics that is far more variable than some low carb T2s.
That released much of the anxiety for me.

Just my 2 cents.
 
I've actually been thinking about a CGM lately. In fact, I've heard some doctors say that a CGM would be a game-changer generally given our carbohydrate-rich, ultra processed environment.

Blood doesn't bother me, and finger-pricking doesn't either, but I seem to waste two strips to get one test. Sometimes it works first time, but it seems that the majority of the time I need to use three strips.

I've been looking at the GlucoRx Aidex; it seems reaonably-priced. But I gather you can only buy the devices and sensors from the manufacturer. I need to do a bit more research on this, I think. Any tips would be appreciated.
 
After being diagnosed with Type 2 a few months ago, I decided to go low carb, which people here gave great advice on. However, reducing my weight and HBA1C has become my priority. I've become a little obsessed with it all. I've lost over two stone so far, quite effortlessly, but I still have a way to go. Whenever my next test is, I want it to show a much lower HBA1C, mainly for me, but to also show the GP or nurse that low carb works.

I lost quite a bit of weight several years ago, but it just piled back on when I just started eating all the carbohydrates again. With what I've learned recently, I know that the weight will stay off, give or take a few pounds here and there. But before my diagnosis I'd just resigned myself to being fat forever more, with no hope of losing any meaningful weight, because I thought it would be too difficult, and I'd be hungry all the time.

I now know that that isn't true, but I seem to spend an inordinate amount of time thinking about my weight and HBA1C result. What will it be, and why can't I lose weight faster? I know when someone is older it's not that easy compared to when that person was younger. I just need a bit more Vitamin P (Patience) I guess.

Sorry for the rant/moan, and thanks for reading.
When you're just starting out, it's perfectly natural to get on the obsessive crazy train. After a while though, you get used to eating a certain way, and it becomes second nature; you don't really give it a second thought. Everyone around me was worried I was going to develop an eating disorder, but I was just really, really into finding out what worked and what didn't. It passed, as did their worries. ;)

Being a 40-ish woman, who just this year fell off the wagon for a bit and can now not budge the weight no matter what she does, I'd say, treasure the weight loss, however slow it may be. It could be stagnant, like mine, haha! ;)

Hang in there,
Jo
 
I've been looking at the GlucoRx Aidex; it seems reaonably-priced.
The reviews I have read about the GlucoRx Aidex have not been good,
Why don't you sign up for the free Libre 2 trial?
Most people learn a lot from the 2 week trial. They can then use this knowledge moving forward.
 
After being diagnosed with Type 2 a few months ago, I decided to go low carb, which people here gave great advice on. However, reducing my weight and HBA1C has become my priority. I've become a little obsessed with it all. I've lost over two stone so far, quite effortlessly, but I still have a way to go. Whenever my next test is, I want it to show a much lower HBA1C, mainly for me, but to also show the GP or nurse that low carb works.

I lost quite a bit of weight several years ago, but it just piled back on when I just started eating all the carbohydrates again. With what I've learned recently, I know that the weight will stay off, give or take a few pounds here and there. But before my diagnosis I'd just resigned myself to being fat forever more, with no hope of losing any meaningful weight, because I thought it would be too difficult, and I'd be hungry all the time.

I now know that that isn't true, but I seem to spend an inordinate amount of time thinking about my weight and HBA1C result. What will it be, and why can't I lose weight faster? I know when someone is older it's not that easy compared to when that person was younger. I just need a bit more Vitamin P (Patience) I guess.

Sorry for the rant/moan, and thanks for reading.
You've done really well. I had to look through one of my old notebooks from 2020/1 for another issue yesterday, and on some days I was testing five or six times for no reason I can see now. earlier than that I can recall testing a dozen times a day. There is a big step up once you get your "lowered" HbA1c - it is definite evidence (and you're right, your practice needs to see it) that it's all working.

The weight/A1c obsession does fade, if not exactly go away - give it time.

I'd echo the free Libre trial suggestion. In my experience it doesn't replace fingerprick tests but it does show you some things you won't see any other way - what happens when you're not testing in particular. I found that a lot of stuff happens when I'm asleep, and that the up and down change in BG in the first hour after eating can be a bit dramatic - eg hot milk takes me up in about 10 minutes and down almost as quickly.
 
You are doing SO well! Don't see your interest as being "obsessive" - you are doing scientific research on yourself. Also, don't set expectations for weight loss as each of us loses weight differently, and not always from the bits of us that we'd like to see weight loss first. All of us hit plateaux or even gain a few pounds from time to time. Our bodies seek homeostasis, so we do best by letting them recalibrate in their own time. You will relax more as your system shows you its patterns - the thing is to stick with it, and also stay with us, because we've all been there and we are happy to offer help and support.
 
The reviews I have read about the GlucoRx Aidex have not been good,
Why don't you sign up for the free Libre 2 trial?
I'd echo the free Libre trial suggestion. In my experience it doesn't replace fingerprick tests but it does show you some things you won't see any other way - what happens when you're not testing in particular. I found that a lot of stuff happens when I'm asleep, and that the up and down change in BG in the first hour after eating can be a bit dramatic - eg hot milk takes me up in about 10 minutes and down almost as quickly.
I've signed up for the trial, and have been accepted - let's see what happens.

And thanks to all that replied.
 
Agree with @Outlier about the weight coming off in places you don’t expect- my feet which were always narrow became even skinnier! Also sometimes we lose inches but not weight, it’s worth measuring yourself now and then, waist, hips chest and even tops of legs. It surprising how it disappears
 
Agree with @Outlier about the weight coming off in places you don’t expect- my feet which were always narrow became even skinnier! Also sometimes we lose inches but not weight, it’s worth measuring yourself now and then, waist, hips chest and even tops of legs. It surprising how it disappears
I would echo this - a long time ago the advice i was given by a professional was to focus on measurements - sure enough some weeks when the scales said i hadnt 'lost' weight the tape measure restored my confidence with 1/2 inch of different locations
 
I've signed up for the trial, and have been accepted - let's see what happens.
Well, that was quite painful!

I couldn't find the right product (sensor) to order, I seem to have found it by accident.
The web form's accept buttons were greyed out for no apparent good reason.
The County field was mandatory, but had no Welsh (or Scottish) counties listed (I chose Greater Manchester).

I almost gave up and didn't bother - their web site is currently awful.

But it's ordered. Whether it turns up in Greater Manchester or to my correct address is another matter!
 
I think you are doing great, Ian, and I can totally relate with the obsession. I am not testing every five minutes, but I too think about it all a lot. Mind you, now that I have the low carb diet sorted and my weight loss is progressing, I do feel less stressed about the ill effects of diabetes.

How exciting about the CGM, I hope it gets to you (via Greater Manchester, LOL) soon and I look forward to reading about your experience with it.
 
You are doing so well Ian keep up the good work but I know what you mean ab the obsession. Like @Ronancastled said my mood can be governed by my BG result :rolleyes:
I use a GlucoRX, in fact had the mini and now using the Vivid and found them both really easy to use. I’ve compared the readings to my sisters monitor (can’t remember the make) and the readings were consistent with hers ;)
 
How exciting about the CGM, I hope it gets to you (via Greater Manchester, LOL) soon and I look forward to reading about your experience with it.
I just ordered some XL shirts, which was a lot easier that ordering the CGM. I was wearing XXXL shirts, now wearing XXL, so hopefully the XLs will fit me in a couple of weeks. I'll let the forum know how I get on with said CGM.
You are doing so well Ian keep up the good work but I know what you mean ab the obsession. Like @Ronancastled said my mood can be governed by my BG result :rolleyes:
Thanks to you both for the encouragement. For lunch I had corned beef and mackerel, so I won't test that. And I feel that the scales will be kind to me tomorrow. So that's two things less to obsess about.
 
After being diagnosed with Type 2 a few months ago, I decided to go low carb, which people here gave great advice on. However, reducing my weight and HBA1C has become my priority. I've become a little obsessed with it all. I've lost over two stone so far, quite effortlessly, but I still have a way to go. Whenever my next test is, I want it to show a much lower HBA1C, mainly for me, but to also show the GP or nurse that low carb works.

I lost quite a bit of weight several years ago, but it just piled back on when I just started eating all the carbohydrates again. With what I've learned recently, I know that the weight will stay off, give or take a few pounds here and there. But before my diagnosis I'd just resigned myself to being fat forever more, with no hope of losing any meaningful weight, because I thought it would be too difficult, and I'd be hungry all the time.

I now know that that isn't true, but I seem to spend an inordinate amount of time thinking about my weight and HBA1C result. What will it be, and why can't I lose weight faster? I know when someone is older it's not that easy compared to when that person was younger. I just need a bit more Vitamin P (Patience) I guess.

Sorry for the rant/moan, and thanks for reading.
Let's start with weight loss. Only 6 weeks in (tomorrow), but completely understand where you're coming from. Even after losing 3st odd so far in 12-13 weeks, just under 2st of which has been while low carbing for the last 6 weeks ish, I'm still 10st away from my ideal weight. I intend to lose it all, but like you I've had moments where I obsess about losing more. At one point, in an effort to do this, I nailed everything down even harder. The result - I lost nothing that week and I suspect I put my body into starvation mode. I reverted everything back to where it was and lost 1.5lb that week, then 3lb the next. Been steadily losing 1.5-3lb a week since. So yes, it's tempting to think you should/could lose more, but odds are you won't if you're being successful already, plus any attempt to do so will reduce your weight loss and stress your body. That said, just wanted to highlight that you're not alone on this point!

Like you, I'm also somewhat obsessed with my next HBA1C. I'm also under a lot of pressure from the GP surgery nurse to go on max dosage Metformin, with the only basis for that being that my first HBA1C 6 weeks ago was 83. I've declined every time, but that adds more pressure to prove my decision. It's a battle of wills and due to her dismissive "once a fatty, always a fatty" style approach, it's one I'm determined to win. That HBA result was a point in time as far as I'm concerned, it's all in the past. That version of me was already irrelevant, with major changes made shortly before the blood test, so the 83 result was based on my pre-low carb diet self, who didn't exercise, and was weighing 2st more than now. My BG reading on the morning my HBA test bloods were taken was 15.4. My reading this morning was 6.2. I'm consistently in the range I need to be, have been for 4 weeks now (from 1 week after the HBA blood test). This is all because I ignored the nurse's advice to "not make any immediate changes" and instead changed everything about my life. The data currently shows I was right and she was incompetent, but the proof is in the next HBA result.

My BG readings give me confidence that all my lifestyle changes are having the desired effect, so I'm not bothered about the cost or overhead of testing at the moment - that may change, admittedly. An HBA result that was based on the version of me pre-low carb and pre-exercise just isn't relevant in my mind, the nurse can talk about it all she wants and I'll continue not caring, but that doesn't stop me being slightly obsessive around what my next one will be in early November hopefully.

So yeah, I completely get where you're coming from, I share many of your obsessions around self-improvement. I'm slowly learning to see the bigger picture progress and successes, not just the odd "bad" reading, or minor weaknesses. With the help of many perspectives on this forum, I'm slowly retraining myself to be happy with things moving in the right direction, rather than always seeking the route where I'm harder on myself. It doesn't come naturally, but I'm trying, and with your results you posted then you should too mate.
 
Hi John,

Thanks for your detailed post.

Firstly, well done on ignoring on your diabetic nurse's advice. And well done on your impressive weight loss so far. I've always struggled with my weight, and thought I was weak-willed. But I remember one of the last meals I ate in the before times. I had a large chicken curry with large chips, followed by two chunky Kit Kats. I know I shouldn't have been having those snacks, and I couldn't understand why I did, but I was still hungry. I now know why.

After my diagnosis, I thought that if I don't have health, then I've got nothing. The low-carb, ketogenic way of eating may well kill me, as some people say, but I'll die healthy, rather than live a fat, unhealthy life with all the complications that diabetes can bring.

I've been a bit obsessive about my weight loss. If I could count on losing 2lbs a week, I could at least know where I'd be by Christmas, or by next June. But it seems to be in the lap of the gods. Another thing I was a bit obsessive about was eating, or not eating. I can easily go from 7pm one night till midday the next day without being remotely hungry. Is this ketosis, I'd wonder? I did get some ketostix but they don't seem to tell me anything. And I did briefly toy with the idea of a blood ketone meter, but given my record at wasting blood glucose strips that would be prove to be quite expensive.

So, I'll try my free CGM sensor when it arrives, continue testing when I eat meals which could be problematic, and just listen to my body and eat when I'm hungry, and not eat when I'm not. And hopefully the weight loss will continue in the downward direction.

People on this forum have been great at providing perspective. Keep trying, and doing what you're doing. I will too, and hopefully before too long we'll both reach our goals.
 
After being diagnosed with Type 2 a few months ago, I decided to go low carb, which people here gave great advice on. However, reducing my weight and HBA1C has become my priority. I've become a little obsessed with it all. I've lost over two stone so far, quite effortlessly, but I still have a way to go. Whenever my next test is, I want it to show a much lower HBA1C, mainly for me, but to also show the GP or nurse that low carb works.

I lost quite a bit of weight several years ago, but it just piled back on when I just started eating all the carbohydrates again. With what I've learned recently, I know that the weight will stay off, give or take a few pounds here and there. But before my diagnosis I'd just resigned myself to being fat forever more, with no hope of losing any meaningful weight, because I thought it would be too difficult, and I'd be hungry all the time.

I now know that that isn't true, but I seem to spend an inordinate amount of time thinking about my weight and HBA1C result. What will it be, and why can't I lose weight faster? I know when someone is older it's not that easy compared to when that person was younger. I just need a bit more Vitamin P (Patience) I guess.

Sorry for the rant/moan, and thanks for reading.
Vitamin P. Love it. I think it’s human nature to think about something not nearly enough for years and years and then to have a road to Damascus moment and suddenly think about nothing else for a bit. As long as you settle on thinking about it just enough, that’s fine.
 
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