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Discussion in 'Type 2 Diabetes' started by bexter75, Sep 18, 2019.

  1. ianf0ster

    ianf0ster Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I haven't tried any beer since I found this Forum , so have no BG test results for it.
    However I do have test results for Red Wine which show that in the 1 or even 2 hours after wards it reduces my BG, but next morning my levels are back as high as I would have expected to see before bedtime.

    Example last night I gave in to temptation and had some 90% dark Chocolate (which I know some of us have little problem with).
    Unfortunately I really gave in, and so had around 30gms of it (= 10gms carbs) instead of the 7.5 to 15gms I had intended.

    I also had 2 glasses of red wine , which was probably the cause of the lack of judgement. The effect last night was that my BG went down from 7.3 (2hrs post the evening meal) to 6.6 before bed.
    Then it was 8.2 this morning! So I am skipping breakfast and having a slightly later lunch - turning the day into an IF day.
     
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  2. Gryph

    Gryph Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Michelob Ultra lager, a light 3.5% low carb lager. 2g carb (none of which is sugar) per 330ml. Tends to push my BG finger prick test to 5.8mmol/L after a few pints.

    Bud Light is also 3.5% but has a few more carbs. Tends to push my BG finger prick test to 6.4mmol/L.

    Coors Light has more carbs, I’d be looking at 7.5 mmol/L

    Kronenburg 1664 has many carbs, a couple of pints of that and my BG hits 10 mmol/L!

    Real ale, IPAs all worse than 1664.

    Red wine, brandy, whisky... barely any BG impact for me.

    Clearly everybody is different, so YMMV.

    Your BG monitor will help you make informed decisions after testing to see what happens.
     
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  3. Guzzler

    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    The phrase is widely known. Because you have not heard it does not negate it (or prove its veracity).

    I am teetotal so it matters not a whit to me.
     
  4. Mr_Pot

    Mr_Pot Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Interesting that several teetotalers have thought to contribute to a thread about beer! In this thread and others I have seen phrases like "having a few beers", that is where it can all go wrong. Stick to one can or bottle if it fits into your carb allowance and you are probably ok.
     
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  5. Gryph

    Gryph Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    You're absolutely correct.

    I can quite happily demolish a box of Michelob on a friday night - 12 bottles. A total of 24g of carbs over a four hour window, with a BG total keeping in the 5s for the duration. Paired up with cheeses, cold meats, olives, and face meltingly hot pork scratchings, it's quite the feast and not added to the carbs from the lager.
     
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    Red9 · Newbie

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    Hate to be perhaps a bit dim here, but I hear a lot about alcohol and T2 but I’d be interested in what would you happen if you had a light meal and then 6 pints of lager? Ok pushes BS up but so what? Let’s say then you alcohol abstain for a month and eat normally but limited carbs?
     
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    Red9 · Newbie

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    That’s motivational! So many doom and gloom stories/advice over leaving beer alone like it will kill you!
     
  8. Gryph

    Gryph Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    It's all about the carbs, and entirely individual. Know the content of what you're putting in, keep to whatever limits you allow yourself and test your BG reaction (before, after and during if that helps); then you'll know how it affects you :)

    And then there's the other factors to consider - what you're eating (or not) with it, how that impacts how your body handles carbs, and how your liver copes. Then resisting any inebriated urges to gorge on fish and chips, Haribo and white bread :D
     
  9. JoKalsbeek

    JoKalsbeek I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Well, the beer I actually like the taste of, would send my blood sugars into the stratosphere. (The heavier stuff that comes out of monk's breweries. I've been teetotal for quite a while now, even with the non-alcoholic fatty liver disease resolved... I've beat that poor thing enough.) But anyway, if you're fine drinking low carb beers, have at it. If you're not on insulin or gliclazide you're quite safe to get absolutely plastered on whiskey, wodka and what have you. https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/keto/alcohol-guide might help.

    It's a personal choice. We're all different with different needs. Like I said, I don't drink at all anymore, and didn't much before that to begin with, maybe a glass, 5 times a year...? Most T2's have non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. I don't want to ruin any progress I've made there. Could well be your liver's fine though, and up for a dram or two. And if you don't have medication that'll lower your bloodsugars, like the aforementioned Glic and insulin, there's no risk of a hypo. Some do, and don't wake up in the morning. Decide what works for you.
     
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