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Best non dairy non sugar spread

Discussion in 'Ask A Question' started by carrickman, Sep 8, 2017.

  1. carrickman

    carrickman Type 2 · Newbie

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    Hi
    I am a type 2 but I have gone down from 22 stone to 13.5 at my last blood test the nurse said that every thing was now perfect the problem is that I have also been diagnosed with MS. I do not eat very much bread but can anyone recommend a spread that is non diary and also non sugar

    Thanks

    Carson
     
  2. Bluetit1802

    Bluetit1802 Type 2 (in remission!) · Guru

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    Hi and welcome,

    Are you on any diabetes medication?

    Can you tell us why you are avoiding dairy?

    Do you have a blood glucose meter and do you test before and after meals?

    I'm tagging @daisy1 who has an excellent post for newcomers. Have a good read, and ask questions.
     
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    nomoredonuts Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    helensaramay Type 1 · Expert

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    To be honest, I don't use any buttery type spread on my bread. If it is a nice flavoursome loaf (not stodgy sliced white bread), I find it has enough flavour of its own.
    When I find my bread a bit dry, I use something like hummus, to which I may add some flavouring such as a couple of drops of peri peri sauce, or baba ganoosh. I guess meat pates would also work (but I'm veggie so can't offer suggestions from personal experience)
     
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    Alexandra100 Prefer not to say · Well-Known Member

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    I absolutely love Meridian organic peanut butter. It has nothing whatever added to it. It gives 11.6g carb per 100g, but 100g of peanut butter goes a long way. It comes in crunchy, which I prefer, or smooth which is easier to put on thinly if you are watching calories. Suma also do a peanut butter without anything added, but personally I prefer Meridian, it seems to taste richer. Very good as a dip for raw vegetables.
     
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  6. carrickman

    carrickman Type 2 · Newbie

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    Alexandra100 Prefer not to say · Well-Known Member

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    I agree. There is NO marge or butter in my fridge, but I too like hummus as a spread. I improve mine regularly with a little lemon juice and a lot of crushed garlic. Btw you are not supposed to freeze hummus, but I have been doing so for years. This means I can stock up when it's on offer and also not risk running out.
     
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  8. carrickman

    carrickman Type 2 · Newbie

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    Hi
    I take 1 metformin tablet twice a day
    I check my blood every other day first thing in the morning it now ranges from 5,2 to 5.8
    The MS diet that I have says take no dairy which for me was a problem because it means no milk,eggs or butter.
    I use Almond milk which is very good and tastes fine in porridge

    Thanks

    Carson
     
  9. helensaramay

    helensaramay Type 1 · Expert

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    In the past, it has been suggested I am pedantic. So I apologies if this is another of those times.
    However, dairy only covers milk based products (yoghurt, cheese, butter, cream, ...). Eggs are not dairy. Was it also a recommendation to avoid eggs?

    It doesn't help your spread question but may give you some more options in other parts of your diet.
     
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    Tannith · Well-Known Member

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    Marmite. Peanut butter apparently contains no sugar. Also other nut butters from the health food shop.
     
  11. noblehead

    noblehead Type 1 · Guru
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    Marmite, you either love it or hate it :)
     
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    Kristin251 LADA · Expert

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    Garlic infused olive oil. Smashed avocado
     
  13. badcat

    badcat · Guest

    Tahini, sugar free peanut butter, marmite, baba ganoush,roasted courgette 'hummus' and chia seed 'jam' are my favourites
     
  14. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Master

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    You may (or may not of course) find this interesting
    http://terrywahls.com
    A Professor of Medicine who was diagnosed with MS.
     
  15. Enclave

    Enclave Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member
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  16. daisy1

    daisy1 Type 2 · Legend
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    @carrickman

    Hello Carson and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


    BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

    Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

    A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 250,000 people who are demonstrating this.

    On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

    The role of carbohydrate

    Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

    If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

    The bad news

    Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

    The good news

    People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

    Controlling your carbs

    The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

    There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
    • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
    • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
    Reduce your carbohydrates

    A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

    The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

    Choosing better carbohydrates

    The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

    Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

    Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

    Eating what works for you

    Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

    To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

    The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

    Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
    • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
    Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
    • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
    Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
    • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
    However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

    Access to blood glucose test strips

    The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

    • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
    • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

    Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

    You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

    Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

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  17. Oldvatr

    Oldvatr Other · Well-Known Member

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    Bovril or vegemite are also similar. Pure honey or Maple syrup (must be pure too) may be acceptable if used sparingly as a flavour, but beware of cheap supermarket fare with added or hidden sugars. Beware so called Low Fat spreads since thes often contain sugar alcohols which are not included in the carbs / sigars label, but may appear as things ending in -ose or -ol in the ingedients eg maltose or malitol.
     
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  18. Daibell

    Daibell LADA · Master

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    You may want to get other opinions on the non-dairy advice? For interest I just looked at the MSTrust website and it suggests taking dairy as part of an MS diet. I'm no expert on this and the website advice may be wrong but removing dairy from the diet has become a bit of a current trend so x-check it's the right advice for you as you do need fat in your diet.
     
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  19. noblehead

    noblehead Type 1 · Guru
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    Taste wise they are miles apart @Oldvatr , we once bought some Vegemite and ended up throwing it out, awful stuff.
     
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    Oldvatr Other · Well-Known Member

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    I find Bovril is very good for welding the cap to the jar, meaning I only benfit from half of the contents. I have never tried Vegemite, but I believe you are not alone in your observation.
     
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