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Blood Sugars with only Diet?

In essence, you are eating to your meter, @SusanMR . This is nothing new. Just test before eating, eat, test, then review readings. If the after eating numbers are outside the individual's personal range, then either the meal or the amount eaten needs to be adjusted.

There's no rocket science and many, many, many here have done this. Utilising a Libre sensor gives good feedback, provided the sensor is accurate, although it would likely still show trends, but, provided the person's body can recover from the onslaught of their diabetes, it can be achieved, without prescribed diets or following a plan.

I really do hope you manage to remain diabetes free - not everyone can, even if they eat very well and do everything they can to maintain their health. None of us can predict our futures.

How old were you when you were diagnosed T2?
 
Until I had a constant monitor which I can see exactly which each food is doing to my sugar level I was in the dark, what I discovered was I was eating what they use to call "healthy" food and injecting long term insulin at night and taking 3000 units of Metformin during the day . I was finger pricking before meals and after meals and before going to sleep and when I woke up and I use to wake up with the sugar level of 260. For instance just to give you an example I tried the whole grain sugar free breads that dietitians had me on, I tried one slice in the morning and yes my sugar didn't go skyrocket high at once but stayed high in the 140's for 4 days regardless of whatever I ate before which was tuna salad with lettuce. After 4 days my sugar went back to the levels I was maintaining with the diet which was a fasting glucose between 106-110 which I am now. I tried saltine crackers and I didn't have the same reaction -my sugar went to 134 but 2 hours later it was back to 107. Didn't stay high like what happened with the bread for 4 days later. But this is just my case, I have a friend that is also diabetic and the bread doesn't affect him.

What is new here, is that you can see how each food makes your sugar react for short and long periods, so you know what to avoid and what foods are safe for you.

Of course this requires discipline of no cheating. When there is a food that you know is going to make your sugar high for long periods-don't touch it-not even on special occasions.

If it was as simple as you said how come there are so many people on this forum with diabetes trying to figure it out. This worked for me and another 80 diabetes 2 on the pilot. It didn't work for the people that didn't stick to what the experts were instructing them to do .

So you are saying the game-changer for you was the Libre?

The Abbott Freestyle Libre is available to purchase from Abbot directly, or in some pharmacies. Not all pharmacies stock this in UK, yet. I would agree that the Freestyle Libre is a very valuable tool for people with diabetes. To me, this is still eating to one's meter, only the meter is measuring for the lifetime of the sensor.

At diagnosis, I brought my HbA1c down from 73 (8.8%) to 37 (5.5%) in just over 3 months. Five years on, my last HbA1c was 30 or 4.9%. I am not the only member here who has achieved these results, and maintained them. And all of that was in the dark old ages before the Libre. I have since used a Libre sensor from time to time.

In my experience in both life and as a professional Change Managerr, I have found that for a change to be sustained, the individual must firstly want to make the change, but also if they are empowered to learn, for themselves, what to change, and why, they will buy into their changes much more deeply than if they are told everything they need to know.

On this forum there are several threads where people have posted their success stories, ad over the years I would estimate I have read hundreds of stories of reversal. Not everyone who has reversed their condition, or put it into remission (if they prefer to view it as that) stay around the forum for lots of reasons, but many do.

You could try doing a forum search to find some of those threads. They are inspiring reading.
 
I have following this low carb diet since May. Lost 10 kilos. My BMI is 24 now.

For you to regulate blood sugars once off the medication how long it took. Could you please let me know what blood sugars you had at that time period?

You are not really low carbing, there is too many grain in your diet, cut them out plus drop the sour dough. This is why you are having problems.
 
Your numbers are still fairly high.. Adding back in the carbs wasn't probably the best idea. In your shoes I'd remove any flour and go back to your ketogenic diet until your sugars are back in the "normal" range.

Exactly my thoughts. Carb intolerant, eating too many grains. I don't think there is such thing as diabetic carb friendly, they all turn into sugars.
 
Exactly my thoughts. Carb intolerant, eating too many grains. I don't think there is such thing as diabetic carb friendly, they all turn into sugars.

I did try this week no bread, but more exercise. My sleep is getting worst when i reduce the carbs.

Blood sugars are mid 8 still.

I track my sleep with fitbit monitor.
 
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You are stressing yourself out. This will possibly effect your sleep and glucose levels.
Also you are asking people about their glucose levels after certain foods and that day. Everyone ones tolerant levels are different. Yours are running high, test pre and post prandial after eating your carbs rather than the full meal. Grains are high carb and so low GI carbs are fast acting to diabetics. So there is no such thing as low carb grains.

Reflect on what you would like best, lower glucose levels, eventually you will sleep better. Remember carbohydrates induce sleepiness and the brain does not function as well, that's one of the complaints people suffer, "carb induced, brain fog"
Rather than relying on your fit bit, go by how you feel in the morning.
 
You are stressing yourself out. This will possibly effect your sleep and glucose levels.
Also you are asking people about their glucose levels after certain foods and that day. Everyone ones tolerant levels are different. Yours are running high, test pre and post prandial after eating your carbs rather than the full meal. Grains are high carb and so low GI carbs are fast acting to diabetics. So there is no such thing as low carb grains.

Reflect on what you would like best, lower glucose levels, eventually you will sleep better. Remember carbohydrates induce sleepiness and the brain does not function as well, that's one of the complaints people suffer, "carb induced, brain fog"
Rather than relying on your fit bit, go by how you feel in the morning.

Thanks for reply. Do you mean test before and after each food item what i eat? I know in ideally 2 hours it should be back as before the meal, but what is acceptable increase to add into my diet.

I mean even if i following low carb recipe it some times increase before and after are 2 mmol/l to 1 mmol/l.
 
Thanks for reply. Do you mean test before and after each food item what i eat? I know in ideally 2 hours it should be back as before the meal, but what is acceptable increase to add into my diet.

I mean even if i following low carb recipe it some times increase before and after are 2 mmol/l to 1 mmol/l.
Back to as before the meal isn't right - an increase of no more than 2 whole numbers (in mmol/l) from the time you start to eat is the usual advice
 
Thanks for reply. Do you mean test before and after each food item what i eat? I know in ideally 2 hours it should be back as before the meal, but what is acceptable increase to add into my diet.

I mean even if i following low carb recipe it some times increase before and after are 2 mmol/l to 1 mmol/l.

Most folks with T2 are content with an after meal rise of up to around 2, although the closer to the starting point the better.
 
Could you please post blood sugars who is controlling their Diabetes Type 2 on Diet with out medication.

My morning sugars are around 9 mmol/l.

By evening before meal it is going upto 6 mmol/l.

3 Months back my HB1AC is 48.

I do most weekdays cycling to work 11 miles each way.

Weekends yoga, gardening and walking.

Done keto diet since middle of April for two months. My blood sugars was good on average.

But my sleeping pattern was not good. Used to woke up middle of night.

Then added homemade sourdough bread into my diet sleeping pattern was much better but blood sugars are got worse.

When you guys introduced carbs to your diet is it normal to increase blood sugars?

If you remember could please let me know what was the readings?
You are doing great. I did not look up conversion numbers ( I am in US) but anytime you can get BS down is great. You ask about sourdough bread raising BS, yes it will. Carbs=BS increase. It will throw off your ketosis as well. I eat between 5-10 grams of carbs per day, you can't avoid all of them, but any carbs of any sort will increase BS and A1c. Don't believe any commercial product as well that says it is low carb, unless you test it yourself. Test before eating, test post eating at 1 hour, 2 hours, and 4 hours and see what it does to your BS. I would guess that your bread spikes your BS within 1 hour. I run tests on myself a lot. Been doing LCHF since I had several strokes in 2014-2015. I have lost 170 pounds and completely reversed diabetes, and gotten rid of all diabetes meds and statins. Trust me, LCHF works, just believe in yourself and your strength to fix this yourself. But, the more carbs you avoid, the happier you will be.
 
Mainly for dinner green vegetables , chicken,eggs, cauliflower rice, Edam cheese and salad.

I make sourdough bread using spelt flour, rye, flaxseed flour, buckwheat flour.

Breakfast egg omelet, chia seed and almond milk, oats and homemade yogurt, berries and almond milk.

Afternoon lunch salads or fasting.

I do fasting twice a week.
Make sure your almond milk is unsweetened, spelt, buckwheat, rye all are fairly high carb. Buckwheat for example has 71.5 grams of carbs per 100grams of flour. If it has more than 1-2% of your allowable daily carbs per serving, just don't eat it. The only result you can get from more carbs is higher blood glucose. If you must have your sourdough, only have it on special days. Eat lots of fermented products such as sour kraut, unsweetened yogurt, pickles etc. Let the bacteria eat the sugar first.
 
Thanks for reply. Do you mean test before and after each food item what i eat? I know in ideally 2 hours it should be back as before the meal, but what is acceptable increase to add into my diet.

I mean even if i following low carb recipe it some times increase before and after are 2 mmol/l to 1 mmol/l.

You have sourdough bread, test before then test an hour after and then an hour later. This will give you an idea.
I aim for my fasting levels below 6.1, ideally in the 5s. My levels have never been in the 8s. 7.6 mmol is far to high. I won't eat foods which raises my levels that much. It is a good question on how high after eating is exceptible. Lower the better.
I now know how high my numbers go and how long I need to be in a certain range for my A1c of 39
 
Most folks with T2 are content with an after meal rise of up to around 2, although the closer to the starting point the better.

For clarification in my mind, when you say "after meal rise of up to around 2"
Does us it mean say "5.6" rise of 2, is that to say "7.6mmol" or to "5.8" ?
 
For clarification in my mind, when you say "after meal rise of up to around 2"
Does us it mean say "5.6" rise of 2, is that to say "7.6mmol" or to "5.8" ?
2 full numbers, Pixie, so if the starting point was 5.6, a two hour reading of up to 7.6 could be very acceptable.

If the after reading is greater than 7.6 (in this instance), the depending upon how adrift of that number the score actually is, the person could eat less of the carby food next time they tried it, or not bother eating it again.

Some folks have different targets, but that's a general rule of thumb.
 
For clarification in my mind, when you say "after meal rise of up to around 2"
Does us it mean say "5.6" rise of 2, is that to say "7.6mmol" or to "5.8" ?

Today before dinner 8.7. After dinner 8.3.

But I checked just coming from my bike ride from work to home around 10 miles. I suspect it decreases because already high due to bike ride then decreases after hours or not sure because I had for dinner. Cauliflower and egg curry,Salads and zero noodles and prawns.129459C1-984A-40B0-B2C3-17131195888E.jpgD4F6B00E-7104-4949-BB8E-60F8D8373E29.jpg3567E029-844D-4441-87FC-5CCB0DFBE3B2.jpg
 
For clarification in my mind, when you say "after meal rise of up to around 2"
Does us it mean say "5.6" rise of 2, is that to say "7.6mmol" or to "5.8" ?

I stopped taking bread since week just to check how my blood sugars are.

Still making bread for family and not eating for my self.
 
2 full numbers, Pixie, so if the starting point was 5.6, a two hour reading of up to 7.6 could be very acceptable.

If the after reading is greater than 7.6 (in this instance), the depending upon how adrift of that number the score actually is, the person could eat less of the carby food next time they tried it, or not bother eating it again.

Some folks have different targets, but that's a general rule of thumb.

Great reply, very helpful for me. If anything takes me that high, I leave out. This gives me a clear idea for my ultimate aims. My A1c was 39, I know now i can achieve even lower results.
 
Today before dinner 8.7. After dinner 8.3.

But I checked just coming from my bike ride from work to home around 10 miles. I suspect it decreases because already high due to bike ride then decreases after hours or not sure because I had for dinner. Cauliflower and egg curry,Salads and zero noodles and prawns.View attachment 28972View attachment 28973View attachment 28974

My levels have never been that high never in the 8s very really higher than 7.6. . Your pre meal is extremely high, from your number its reduced that's a good starting, you are heading in the right direction.
However importantly what did you eat for breakfast and pre/post prandial
 
My levels have never been that high never in the 8s very really higher than 7.6. . Your pre meal is extremely high, from your number its reduced that's a good starting, you are heading in the right direction.
However importantly what did you eat for breakfast and pre/post prandial

My fasting sugars 8.1 and Ate cheese Omelet for breakfast. Not checked sugars after that.

Went to work on bike no lunch just fasting till dinner.
 
My fasting sugars 8.1 and Ate cheese Omelet for breakfast. Not checked sugars after that.

Went to work on bike no lunch just fasting till dinner.
You should have checked, It's the only real way.
What were your number yesterday and what you ate. In the correct order.
 
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