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Calorie Counting

Ennaixoxo21

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
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Hi I'm new here. Type 2 for 18 years . I have tried different diets including Keto, Low Carb and now calorie counting. I am managing to sustain this diet but found keto so difficult. I have a question. Is it better to lose weight slowly by calorie counting. Will it benefit my diabetic control if I lose what I need to by this method even though I'm not counting carbs. Overall is it better to carry on with this method in the hope that my control will be improved. Thanks for reading
 
Hi and welcome. This is a tricky one to answer as I am one of those people for whom a calorie restricted diet doesn't work in anything other than the very short term - I might lose a little, but I'm constantly hungry and anything lost is regained more quickly than it was lost. On the other hand Atkins/keto was/is easy to do for me, produces substantial weight loss, zero hunger, and is sustainable long-term.

You'll find that a lot of us on the forum have had the experience of efficient glucose control happening long before any substantial weight loss: I was at normal blood glucose in four months, but it took another three years to lose 90lbs. I don't think it can be said with certainty in every case that weight loss of itself lowers blood glucose levels - there are a fair few "thin" T2s who would tend to disprove that.

There's also the point that a low calorie diet will by default be a low carb diet as well. If you go for 800kcal/day, and aim for 40% (320kcal) of that to come from carb, you will be eating a maximum of around 80g carb daily, which is low carb in anyone's book, and would help with overall BG reduction.

The range of responses and experiences recorded on the forums around weight loss and BG control would lead me to suggest that the only way you can find out what works for you, as opposed to what works for other people, is to try it and see. I'd also suggest that you continue monitoring your BG levels in response to food as you do it.
 
I agree 100% with the above. What did you find difficult about the keto? It isn't for everyone, as calorie reduction isn't, but perhaps we can help you to avoid the difficulties.
 
Thanks to both of you for your replies. I have done keto before and managed to lose 2 stone and my bg was really good. Unfortunately I had an illness that required steroids for 6 months so I regained all the weight lost and more! Since then I have really struggled to stick to low carb. I'm feeling desperate and worried about my bg levels which are high. I find keto really restrictive and I'm not in the right headspace to be strong enough to do it. My thinking was at least if I can get to a regular weight it can't hurt but in the meantime my sugars are not controlled because of the food I'm eating despite it being low calorie. You make a great point that there are many things type 2s. I wish I could stick to keto as it was good for my sugars, I find the prep hard. I don't like many veg. I have problems with prepping food due to arthritis in my hands. Apologies for the long reply. I'm at my wits end.
 
Thanks to both of you for your replies. I have done keto before and managed to lose 2 stone and my bg was really good. Unfortunately I had an illness that required steroids for 6 months so I regained all the weight lost and more! Since then I have really struggled to stick to low carb. I'm feeling desperate and worried about my bg levels which are high. I find keto really restrictive and I'm not in the right headspace to be strong enough to do it. My thinking was at least if I can get to a regular weight it can't hurt but in the meantime my sugars are not controlled because of the food I'm eating despite it being low calorie. You make a great point that there are many things type 2s. I wish I could stick to keto as it was good for my sugars, I find the prep hard. I don't like many veg. I have problems with prepping food due to arthritis in my hands. Apologies for the long reply. I'm at my wits end.
Keto doesn't mean you absolutely have to eat veg... Did you follow a meal plan that didn't suit you, maybe? Eggs with sausages/bacon would be low carb, and filling. Scrambled eggs with cheese, maybe some grilled tomato to go with it...? If you have a hard time cutting up meat, just go for the minced stuff; sausages, burgers, easy to cut through. Meats, fish, poultry, are all low carb, as are eggs, most full fat dairy... You should be able to make it as filling and convenient as you want to, and need it to be. There are low carb crackers, you could put cheese, cold cuts and butter on there, or skip the usually overpriced cracker and make a cheese roll-up, which is basically no work at all. (Butter the cheese, put ham or whatever on, roll up, and bite. Done!). Have some boiled eggs on stand-by in your fridge, should you ever feel peckish. Cauliflower rice with ground beef and cheese, whatever spices/herbs you like, makes for a filling meal. I'm not very good with food prep myself, and had some difficulty with cutlery for a while there (rheumatism and fatigue), so yeah... Sometimes we just have to adjust things to suit our own capabilities and needs.

Dunno if that helps at all, but... Work-arounds are more than allowed. I remember when I first started out, and I got those cook books with ingredients I couldn't even pronounce (though I can wrap my tongue around erythritol now, I don't actually use it anymore), let alone source them. Long, long lists of impossible ingredients and insane prep times? Not in my ADHD kitchen! I get too distracted, too confused, too discombobulated... Half the time I just throw in some meat from the freezer, maybe salmon too, potentially cauliflower or broccoli with cheese, or spinach. (And I'll have some spuds in the airfryer for my husband). I don't make it any more complicated than I can handle, because I don't need the panic and stress that comes with it. And I preferably skip one meal, so that's even less prep. ;) I'll deviate when I feel up to it, which is maybe once a week, -maybe some gyros or something- but most meals are just.... Routine.

Lately I have seen a lot of microwaveable Keto meals advertised on Instagram, which are pricy but might suit your needs as well. No idea what, if any, brands are available where you are though. Lemme google... https://ketokitchenlytham.co.uk/meal-plans/the-frozen-one Something like that, maybe?

Just something to consider, maybe. You be good to yourself eh!
Jo
 
Thank you all for your replies. Very much appreciate this. I will try low carb again and see how it goes.
 
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