chris66
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No i was never told by anyone in the medical profession of any connection between statins and type 2 which in many ways is quite shocking bearing in mind family history of type 2!
No i was never told by anyone in the medical profession of any connection between statins and type 2 which in many ways is quite shocking bearing in mind family history of type 2!Depending on how deep you want to go
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/cholesterol-and-statins.156985/
Did the GP tell you that statins have been known to bring on T2 diabetes in some people I wonder?
No i was never told by anyone in the medical profession of any connection between statins and type 2 which in many ways is quite shocking bearing in mind family history of type 2!
Yes i have online access to medical records but dont understand them to be honest, however when i last saw GP she was running through test results and thinking out loud and i definately heard cholesterol level is good.Do you know what your cholesterol levels are, including the breakdown (HDL, LDL and triglycerides) ? If not, then ask for a print out of your last blood test results, unless these are available to you on line, which if you are in England they should be.
If you could give us the Total Cholesterol, HDL, LDL and Triglyceride numbers we could have a look if you want?Yes i have online access to medical records but dont understand them to be honest, however when i last saw GP she was running through test results and thinking out loud and i definately heard cholesterol level is good.
HDL level 3.7 mmol, HDL ratio 3.7 mmol LDL level 1.8mmol Triglyceride level 2mmol, if thats of any helpIf you could give us the Total Cholesterol, HDL, LDL and Triglyceride numbers we could have a look if you want?
Replied on BulkBiker's post hopefully they were the figures you meantI agree with @bulkbiker If you wish to post them on here we will explain what they mean. You really need to know.
Hearing your doctor say cholesterol is good means nothing at all. They may be good, they may be teetering on being too low or too high but still just about within range. This is just your GP's opinion, not fact.
Can you remember if you had fasted for the required 10-14 hours before the blood was taken? And do you have the total cholesterol figure?HDL level 3.7 mmol, HDL ratio 3.7 mmol LDL level 1.8mmol Triglyceride level 2mmol, if thats of any help
cholesterol level (XE2eD) 3.7 mmol/L [< 5]Can you remember if you had fasted for the required 10-14 hours before the blood was taken? And do you have the total cholesterol figure?
And had you fasted before the blood was taken? If not then the Triglyceride figure would be corrupted by whatever you had eaten or drunk beforehand.cholesterol level (XE2eD) 3.7 mmol/L [< 5]
triglyceride levels (XE2q9) 2 mmol/L [< 1.7]
cholesterol/HDL ratio (XaEUq) 3.7 mmol/mmol [< 4]
HDL cholesterol level (44P5.) 1 mmol/L [0.9 - 2]
LDL cholesterol level (44P6.) 1.8 mmol/L [< 3]
there all the figures on my records that mention cholesterol, this, was underneath the list but not sure if that has any bearing.
Full blood count (424..)
No was told no need to fast but usually try to go early morning for blood tests so in effect would of had no solids for approx 12 hours plus but 1/2 cups of tea on waking in the days when i would have added sugar.And had you fasted before the blood was taken? If not then the Triglyceride figure would be corrupted by whatever you had eaten or drunk beforehand.
OK that could explain the Trigs which are a bit high but are influenced by all sorts of thing like food and drink before the test. I'm afraid that makes it al a bit meaningless. I'm surprised your surgery paid for a full lipid panel (which is the test that gives the results breakdown you got) with you not having water fasted beforehand bit of a waste of dough unless they want to keep you on those statins!No was told no need to fast but usually try to go early morning for blood tests so in effect would of had no solids for approx 12 hours plus but 1/2 cups of tea on waking in the days when i would have added sugar.
Have to admit i was surprised when i asked about fasting and was told it wasnt neccassairy, all i can say is it wasnt my usual GP so possibly could have been a locum as only went in for flu jab and notes on computer advising testOK that could explain the Trigs which are a bit high but are influenced by all sorts of thing like food and drink before the test. I'm afraid that makes it al a bit meaningless. I'm surprised your surgery paid for a full lipid panel (which is the test that gives the results breakdown you got) with you not having water fasted beforehand bit of a waste of dough unless they want to keep you on those statins!
OK that could explain the Trigs which are a bit high but are influenced by all sorts of thing like food and drink before the test. I'm afraid that makes it al a bit meaningless. I'm surprised your surgery paid for a full lipid panel (which is the test that gives the results breakdown you got) with you not having water fasted beforehand bit of a waste of dough unless they want to keep you on those statins!
cholesterol level (XE2eD) 3.7 mmol/L [< 5]
triglyceride levels (XE2q9) 2 mmol/L [< 1.7]
cholesterol/HDL ratio (XaEUq) 3.7 mmol/mmol [< 4]
HDL cholesterol level (44P5.) 1 mmol/L [0.9 - 2]
LDL cholesterol level (44P6.) 1.8 mmol/L [< 3]
there all the figures on my records that mention cholesterol, this, was underneath the list but not sure if that has any bearing.
Full blood count (424..)
My hba1c rose from 48 on diagnosis to 54 after taking statins for a while. My BS began dropping once I came off them due to other side effects so when I have the ‘statins’ talk with my DN I always refuse her kind offer of a prescription. However I hope I won’t have to next time as the new GP that I saw has annotated my file as being statin intolerant.No i was never told by anyone in the medical profession of any connection between statins and type 2 which in many ways is quite shocking bearing in mind family history of type 2!
Thank you for that, thought it was strange him saying no need to fast but i will know in future, i suppose it's down to lack of appointment time, but a shame GP's seem unable to educate their patients to a degree when giving test results diagnosis etc.As you didn't fast, you can ignore your triglyceride level. Next time make sure you water fast for 10 to 12 hours before the test whatever you are told to do. In my opinion, and I am not a doctor but I do a lot of reading on the subject, your total cholesterol is low and this is not necessarily the best thing, but this is because your HDL is on the low side. The HDL is the good cholesterol and needs to be as high as possible - certainly at the top end of the standard range. One thing that will increase the HDL is reduced carbs. Carbohydrate is known to deplete HDL (and that includes sugar in your tea)
Just to explain:
Total cholesterol is the total of the HDL + LDL + 46% of the triglycerides, so it it a total of the good and the not so good stuff.
HDL is good stuff.
Triglycerides are the baddies.
LDL can be bad and can also be good. It depends on the size of the particles, but here in the UK we don't get our particle sizes measured. There are little hard dense particles that are baddies, and there are big fluffy particles that are goodies. The best guess is the lower the trigs are the bigger the LDL particles will be.
Hope this helps.
Some how get the feeling even if i was to question my GP about it i wouldn't get very far.My hba1c rose from 48 on diagnosis to 54 after taking statins for a while. My BS began dropping once I came off them due to other side effects so when I have the ‘statins’ talk with my DN I always refuse her kind offer of a prescription. However I hope I won’t have to next time as the new GP that I saw has annotated my file as being statin intolerant.
Thank you for that, thought it was strange him saying no need to fast but i will know in future, i suppose it's down to lack of appointment time, but a shame GP's seem unable to educate their patients to a degree when giving test results diagnosis etc.
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