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Carb confusion

AlexMBrennan said:
The reason is that the prevailing opinion on this forum is that current medical advice is all completely wrong, and that you need to disregard it and follow their favoured fad diet instead.
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But the current medical advice (with regard to diabetic diet) is all wrong. The UKPDS shows quite clearly that no matter what intervention you use (metformin, insulin, sulphonylurea), if you feed diabetics a high carbohydrate diet, then their condition deteriorates over time.

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I eat quite a lot of carbohydrate: I certainly always eat 220g of rye bread each day. (This tends to stabilise my blood sugar, and it helps me to avoid hypos.)

My past few HbA1c readings have been 27mmol/l. (I've been diabetic 31 years.) And that's a normal reading for a non-diabetic.

I believe I can expect practically no adverse long-term consequences of diabetes.
 
It's a piece of cake.

And coincidentally, I am just munching some.

I'm sorry, I forgot about your 4 year old.

Small children need a varied diet, I know. But I hope she'll get a taste for rye bread. Together with fairly frequent testing, it's what keeps me safe.
 
Hi. I'm a late onset T1 and keep the carbs down for two reasons i.e to avoid possible weight gain and to minimise blood sugar swings as Hale says. If the 4 year old is normal weight then the diet is fine as it is, but blood sugar swings is always worth keeping an eye one to avoid hypos. BTW the LCHF acronym has become very popular on this site in recent months and is not the same as low-carb. When you low-carb to minimise weight and blood sugar the only reason to increase fat is to ensure you have enough calorie intake; fats have little relevance to diabetes so in general think Low-carb and then increase fats and protein to give you enough calorie intake
 
Personally, I'm careful about what I eat, I don't eat junk normally. I don't think anyone should; but I can go out to dinner or even a child's birthday party and know how to use an appropriate amount of insulin for a less healthy meal. I don't eat a low carb diet, nor a particularly high carb one, nor do I spend all day eating rye bread either. I have good control and am fit and active. Good glucose control does matter but there are specific considerations/targets for children and adolescents.
My best recommendations would be to have a look at this book. I found it useful even though I was an adult. I've read of lots of parents who find it great as a backup resource,
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Type-1-Diab...8&qid=1397076826&sr=1-1&keywords=ragnar+hanas
The second one would be to contact other parents of children with T1. There are some parents on here and hopefully they will reply but there is also a UK Children with diabetes list/forum/info site
http://www.childrenwithdiabetes.com/uk/

The UKPDS study mentioned above is a T2 study with average ages in the study in the mid 50s , they don't seem to have followed dietary advice in any case .http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8840101) .
 
Daibell said:
Hi. I'm a late onset T1 and keep the carbs down for two reasons i.e to avoid possible weight gain and to minimise blood sugar swings as Hale says. If the 4 year old is normal weight then the diet is fine as it is, but blood sugar swings is always worth keeping an eye one to avoid hypos. BTW the LCHF acronym has become very popular on this site in recent months and is not the same as low-carb. When you low-carb to minimise weight and blood sugar the only reason to increase fat is to ensure you have enough calorie intake; fats have little relevance to diabetes so in general think Low-carb and then increase fats and protein to give you enough calorie intake
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She's quite light and slim for her age I'd say, so at the minute I guess she is grand but she is onli 4 so im sure we hav a lota bridges to cross and these diets mayb sumting we try down the line for sure thanks


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phoenix said:
Personally, I'm careful about what I eat, I don't eat junk normally. I don't think anyone should; but I can go out to dinner or even a child's birthday party and know how to use an appropriate amount of insulin for a less healthy meal. I don't eat a low carb diet, nor a particularly high carb one, nor do I spend all day eating rye bread either. I have good control and am fit and active. Good glucose control does matter but there are specific considerations/targets for children and adolescents.
My best recommendations would be to have a look at this book. I found it useful even though I was an adult. I've read of lots of parents who find it great as a backup resource,
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Type-1-Diab...8&qid=1397076826&sr=1-1&keywords=ragnar+hanas
The second one would be to contact other parents of children with T1. There are some parents on here and hopefully they will reply but there is also a UK Children with diabetes list/forum/info site
http://www.childrenwithdiabetes.com/uk/

The UKPDS study mentioned above is a T2 study with average ages in the study in the mid 50s , they don't seem to have followed dietary advice in any case .http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/ 8840101) .
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Ya see I tink we r doin ok wit her diet as it is but I'm nat stupid it's goin to prob change a million more times I was jus worried I mayb was allowing her to many carbs! Tanks for ur kind links I tink these books will definateli b purchased I'm eager to learn everyting I surpose I'm goin to b the one in the future of how to look after herself so it's defo vital I give her accurate info as best I can tanks ;)
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