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Carb's help please!

aguero16

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Type of diabetes
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Tablets (oral)
Hi Everyone,

I am newly diagnosed T2 and have serious weight issues. I am on a strict diet that allows me two small slices of grained bread per day and a small amount of potatoes or rice, pasta etc per day. I have just been reading a post by Moe about diet and have seen comments that make me think that maybe I shouldn't be eating any bread or potatoes. Is this the case or is a small amount okay? I don't have anything to test myself with and I haven't been told by any medical staff to test myself, is this just something most of you decide to do?

Any advice is greatly appreciated, feeling a little overwhelmed!
 
a blood glucose testing meter is the best thing you could get to be honest.........its just a shame getting them prescribed is difficult for type 2........

cutting carbs out completely is well, really difficult for most........but yeah, getting them down to as little as possible will help tremendously with BG control and weight loss.....

specific details of how to move forward with a diet will need to be given from an experienced type 2 though............

:)
 
Hi and welcome. I'll tag @daisy1 to give you her excellent guide to managing your diabetes. You will see that bread, rice, pasta and spuds are full of carbs which turns to glucose. But you need to understand what to eat (and enjoy) instead. You won't starve and you should be able to lose weight.
As above, a meter is vital to all this, otherwise you can't know what effect different food has on your blood sugar. We can help you choose one but you'll probably have to pay for it and the test strips. However, a small price to pay, I think.
Big changes and decisions but we're here to help along the way. Try not to worry and ask more questions when you've had time to digest all this ;)
 
Thanks guys for the replies. I am happy to invest in a meter etc just not had it mentioned to me by the doc or nurse. It is a big change but to be honest I needed a kick up the behind. I had been feeling unwell for a very long time so in a way at least now I know what the problem is I can deal with it. Lost a few kilos already and have started exercising again so on the right path. I am actually feeling a bit more energetic already (3weeks) so fingers crossed I can get the GL part right.
 
Hi and welcome. The NHS doesn't recommend a meter for T2s is becuase of the cost of test strips. It's essential that all diabetics have a meter. Msany of us aim to keep carbs below 150gm/day and many aim for much less. Go as low as you can and make up with protein, veg, fats and some non-tropical fruit.
 
My diabetic nurse recommended a book Carbs and Cals.It gives you info about what carbs are and what weight in gramms with pics of different size of plates etc .Found mine on amazon .
 
My diabetic nurse recommended a book Carbs and Cals.It gives you info about what carbs are and what weight in gramms with pics of different size of plates etc .Found mine on amazon .

There's also an App for iPhones and Android Smartphones - it's much better than the book (more food itmes for a start) you can get it here:

http://www.carbsandcals.com/

@aguero16 you should also check out the low carb sections of both the forum and via the diet section (use the search box in the home page). Sites such as the www.dietdoctor.com can give you inspiration, as can the thoroughly excellent recipes provided by the diabetes.co.uk team
 
@aguero16

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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