Unfortunately, some people still believe the myth that Type 1 is a childhood disease. It is not. More than half the people with Type 1 were diagnosed over the age of 20. I believe the eldest was 91. Despite this, the myth remains and something like 30% of people diagnosed with Type 1 as an adult were first misdiagnosed with type 2. It is sad. It shouldn't be a surprise that someone was correctly diagnosed with Type1 at the age of 78 ... but it is.“It is now 14 months since my wife was diagnosed with Type 1 at the age of 78.”
It won’t help the OP at all for me to say this, but I am flabbergasted to read statements like this. Granted, I haven’t hung out much in diabetes forums of late, but I can’t tell you how weird it is to see a 78 year-old getting a Type 1 diagnosis. It seems I’ve been transported to an alternate universe. OTOH, I’m getting that feeling a lot lately and not just on diabetes forums. I wouldn’t rule out the possibility.
Unfortunately, some people still believe the myth that Type 1 is a childhood disease. It is not. More than half the people with Type 1 were diagnosed over the age of 20. I believe the eldest was 91. Despite this, the myth remains and something like 30% of people diagnosed with Type 1 as an adult were first misdiagnosed with type 2. It is sad. It shouldn't be a surprise that someone was correctly diagnosed with Type1 at the age of 78 ... but it is.
@david4503 I don't have statistics and medical papers but my understanding that people in their 30s, 40s, 50s or later were getting Type 1 diabetes in the 1970s, 80s and 90s. The problem was that they were not getting diagnosed with Type 1 and sadly were dying early because of their misdiagnosis.
Sure c-peptide testing has only recently become introduced but people were diagnosed in their 30s, 40s, 50s ... with Type 1 before it became "common". I know this because I was one of those people. I consider myself very lucky.
So, I disagree that something has changed in terms of older people getting Type 1. The only thing that has changed is that more are being diagnosed. And that is a good thing compared to the alternative.
Interesting that you asked about the increase in type 1 diabetes rates. I read this article just the other day:Where in the world did you ever get the idea that thousands or tens of thousands of undiagnosed older Types 1s (the same number of older people now diagnosed as Tyoe 1, presumably) were dying BITD because they weren’t diagnosed or put on insulin? I’m sorry, but that’s not even remotely true. It sounds like you’re attempting a bit of revisionism in order to explain something which is, as I indicated, a big question mark.
To be clear, there was, ironically, less misdiagnosis going on before the diagnostic tests arrived than after. A lot less. There’s also apparently a lot more confusion today about who falls into what classification than there was back in the olden days. This may be difficult to understand or accept but it is what it is. Anybody who was first diagnosed as Type 2 and then re-diagnosed as Type 1 ten years later should be able to see for themselves that something in the diagnostic and classification system is very wrong. It’s self-evident.
Now. I’m not looking to rock anyone’s world. I just want to know what’s going on and just as important, why. There is a lot of public discussion about the fact that many more kids and young adults are getting Type 2 — and plenty of good explanations for why this is happening. The same kind of discussion should be happening with Type 1 and older adults but I’m not hearing much about it. My suggestion is not to believe that diabetes has finally arrived at some Age Of Enlightenment where the truth has finally been revealed. Not even close.
This is similar to some of the articles I have read. The only mention of age of diagnosis is that it decreases, not increases as David and I have been discussing.Interesting that you asked about the increase in type 1 diabetes rates. I read this article just the other day:
https://jme.bioscientifica.com/view/journals/jme/51/1/R1.xml#:~:text=Abstract-,A series of studies have reported a constant global rise,destruction associated with humoral immunity.
Edited: It's an older publication.
I responded to David's post: 'There is a lot of public discussion about the fact that many more kids and young adults are getting Type 2 — and plenty of good explanations for why this is happening. The same kind of discussion should be happening with Type 1'.This is similar to some of the articles I have read. The only mention of age of diagnosis is that it decreases, not increases as David and I have been discussing.
Interesting that you asked about the increase in type 1 diabetes rates. I read this article just the other day:
https://jme.bioscientifica.com/view/journals/jme/51/1/R1.xml#:~:text=Abstract-,A series of studies have reported a constant global rise,destruction associated with humoral immunity.
Edited: It's an older publication.
@david4503 your insight is interesting.
Can you direct me to some research papers that discuss this so I can become more informed on the matter?
I have read a number of articles about the rise in the number of people being diagnosed with Type 1 around the world with the suggestion that this is caused by environmental factors, However, I have read nothing which suggests the age of diagnosis has changed.
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@david4503
I know there has been an increase in type 1's, but I don't agree it's a huge surge of just adults lately getting it or that people get sick enough to eventually get diagnosed right. Type 1’s were and still are rampantly misdiagnosed as type 2’s. I was for over 8 years. It does not necessarily become apparent at any time you are a type 1 because when misdiagnosed as I was, they just think the drugs aren’t working well enough and they put you on insulin. And since that is what you needed as a type 1, it never becomes apparent you are actually a type 1. I never got sick, the drugs weren’t working well and gave me side effects. They ended up putting me on insulin because the drugs weren't working to control my BG levels satisfactorily and I also refused to take them anymore. In my case I had even asked my pcp and my endo if I could be a type 1 as I had an uncle that was a type 1 and was told no, that I was a type 2 and they still never tested me. Being a type 2 never made sense to me. It didn’t run in my family, type 1 did, I swam 75 gym pool laps a day, I ate very healthy as a vegan, but I was overweight, not obese, but overweight and I believe that’s what helped them “assume” I was a type 2. I don’t know if I ever would have been diagnosed right if I hadn’t switched my pcp doctor who sent me to a new endo, who then tested me immediately without me even asking, as at that point I had given up asking. I was positive for the antibodies and I was making 0 insulin. I was surviving and not sick because I had been put on insulin. It turns out that’s a pretty common story.
That is how rampant misdiagnosis is. Because really, I ate healthy, I was highly active and type 1 ran in my family, and I asked if I could be a type 1. And yet I was misdiagnosed for over 8 years until I switched doctors. So yea, a lot of people died, got really sick or maybe survived with insulin still misdiagnosed as a type 2’. And the endo that misdiagnosed me was considered really good. The endo that tested me and diagnosed me right, she was an adult onset type 1 herself and luckily was more likely to spot it.
Just last month a late 20’s person here went to emergency feeling sick with high blood sugars, an active person that asked if he could be a type 1 and was told no, that he was too old, he was a type 2 and sent home. The next day they called him and told him he was a type 1 and to get back there. Luckily they had ran the tests.
So the myth still exists even in the medical field. I just ran into an orthopedic doctor that when I said I was a type 1, he assumed I had gotten it as a kid. I had a chiro just 5 years ago say to try an herb that could work to cure my diabetes , I reminded her I was a type 1 and it wouldn’t work on me. And her reply was but you didn’t get it as a kid you can get rid of it. She had been a neonatal nurse for years before becoming a chiro.
So yes, I can believe tens of thousands died from being misdiagnosed in the past. Right now 64,000 people are diagnosed with type 1 every year in the US alone and 50% of those diagnosed are over the age of 30. There is a lack of research to ever know how many were misdiagnosed in the years past for obvious reasons. But there is no reason to doubt that a lot were and that a high percentage of adults went misdiagnosed since they now know how prevalent it is in adults and that can be carried to infer that there were a lot of misdiagnosed adult type 1's in the past too.
But no doubt about it, type 1of all ages in increasing.
- Approximately 1.84 million Americans have type 1 diabetes. (A few years ago it was 1.25 million).
- By 2050, 5 million people are expected to be diagnosed with type 1 diabetes.
- An estimated 64,000 people are diagnosed with type 1 diabetes each year.
- 200,000 people under the age of 20 years old have type 1 diabetes.
- Between 2011 and 2012, 17,900 children and adolescents under the age of 20 were diagnosed with type 1 diabetes.
- There was a 21% increase in people diagnosed with type 1 diabetes between 2001 and 2009 under the age of 20.
- By 2050, 600,000 people under the age of 20 are expected to have type 1 diabetes.
It’s still too common now, and it was obviously more common not that many years ago. And supposedly the medical field is supposed to be more aware of it now and yet there is still a huge lack of information even in the medical field. Somewhere between 30-75% of type 1's are misdiagnosed as type 2's first. Depending what study you read. Generally it is accepted that it is around 35-40% currently. And that is only the known ones. If I had stayed with the same doctors, would I ever have been diagnosed right?
Which is why when I hear a type 2 say they are struggling and not getting the results they think they should, I always say, when things don’t make sense you could be a type 1 instead, to keep it in mind.
I see a lot of dismissive comments and assumptions in your posts. The honeymoon period can be years for some type 1 diabetics. Misdiagnoses can be for years. A lot of what you claim has had no back up from you in terms of evidence of your claims. Maybe listen to those who have been there and are sharing their knowledge?We agree on a few things and disagree on others. I agree that there’s a lot of misdiagnosis, misinformation and confusion happening. But I think medical researchers will eventually sort out the numbers on what groups are being most affected by the rise in Type 1 cases and explain the why of it. It will be harder to come up with data on the situation decades ago but it’s probably doable. Then you will see the trends clearly in terms of older people somehow being misdiagnosed as Type 2 when they were Type 1.
Type 1s have always had a problem with some kind of misdiagnosis or delayed diagnosis. In the past, however, the misdiagnosis didn’t go on for long. In my case, a few weeks. The part I’m not sure you are grasping is that in the past it didn’t take 10 years to correct any misdiagnosis of a Type 1 — but it can and does now. The older people you think were dying in the past of mistakenly diagnosed Type 2 really had Type 2.. What they didn’t have is all the modern blood sugar testing, insulins, stricter regimens and drugs to prevent and treat complications that we have now.
None of this matters as far as what you’re doing in your case and how it’s working for you. But it matters in terms of the big picture and fighting this disease. That’s why I brought this issue up.
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