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Cholesterol and Statins

Discussion in 'Other Health Conditions and Diabetes' started by bulkbiker, Oct 2, 2018.

  1. Guzzler

    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    I admire a doctor who will turn to face you and say 'I don't know'. Rather that than use scare tactics so as to tick a box.
     
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    Hotpepper20000 · Well-Known Member

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    40 years of low fat and didn’t work.
    Call me paranoid, but I think that now that there is mounting evidence that high carb and low fat is not a solution, those that profit from people being fat and sick are scared.
    It just seems like more and more of these kinds articles are popping up.
    But hey! what do I know? I let some forum on the internet change my health for the better.
    <———- insert eye roll
     
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  3. Guzzler

    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    Thank you, that made me smile and I feel exactly the same way.
     
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  4. Guzzler

    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    Laugh out loud with Dr. Paul Mason.

     
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  5. Indy51

    Indy51 Type 2 · Expert

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    Haven't got time to go back and check if these have been posted (apologies if someone has already posted), but adding Ivor Cummins' two latest talks from recent Low Carb Universe Mallorca:



     
  6. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Master

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    Nope I think you are the first many thanks..
     
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  7. Indy51

    Indy51 Type 2 · Expert

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    Dave Feldman's #CholesterolScience Show - with Ivor Cummins:



    It's a long one!
     
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  8. Guzzler

    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    A long one and at times too far above me but fascinating nontheless. Another new term 'Lipo IR' and a test not widely used. Breaking news on the dead box for QRISK etc re LDL and the latest guidelines set on one study (the one as described by Ivor as the 'the metabolically sick, fat, smokers in Scotland').

    So, when I first started to try to understand more about Lipids I quickly came to the conclusion that the science was incomplete. I am still of that opinion and the comment from Dave and Ivor that the science has "barely scratched the surface" still stands.

    Thanks for posting.
     
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  9. Indy51

    Indy51 Type 2 · Expert

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    Indy51 Type 2 · Expert

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    A/Prof. Ken Sikaris - 'HbA1c, Insulin and CV Risk':


     
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  11. Indy51

    Indy51 Type 2 · Expert

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    Another Ivor Cummins interview: What if Heart Disease and Diabetes had the same cause?

     
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  12. Indy51

    Indy51 Type 2 · Expert

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  13. Guzzler

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    Fascinating discussion. I hadn't ever seen the graph re 1940-1945 data before. Great analogy too from Dave with his liver and adipocyte preferring 'turnstile' mechanism.
     
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  14. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Master

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    Genius video thanks for posting @Indy51
     
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  15. Indy51

    Indy51 Type 2 · Expert

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    Indy51 Type 2 · Expert

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    These keep getting longer! Haven't watched it myself yet, so no idea whether it's worth watching or not.

    #CholesterolScience Show - with Dr. Peter Lansberg, Lipidologist

     
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    Love, Dave Feldman and Ivor Cummins. Those guys explain it so well and it makes sense.
     
  18. Guzzler

    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    I'm half way through but I have to admit it's tough going. Landsberg's especial interest is FH.
    He is a bit dismissive, albeit civilly, of Dave's experiments/data because of the 'short term nature of his findings and confirmation bias'. He sometimes speaks as though he has a patient sat in front of him rather than someone who though an amateur is nonetheless a well read one.
    I reckon one could easily forego the first 20 mins of the cast (Landsberg attempts to cite the now famous rabbit study). Dave has to interupt for the sake of time because the gentleman has a slight tendency to waffle. Will edit in a bit, I need to take a break.
     
  19. Indy51

    Indy51 Type 2 · Expert

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    With rare exceptions, I don't really listen that closely to anything to do with cholesterol. I feel like I've maxed out on it and have care factor zero nowadays.
     
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  20. Jim Lahey

    Jim Lahey I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I’m the same. Long since stopped caring, and unless someone can show me that I have inflammation this will remain the case. At which point it would be the inflammation that would be addressed, not the stuff of life that’s attempting to repair it.
     
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