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Cholesterol and Statins

Discussion in 'Other Health Conditions and Diabetes' started by bulkbiker, Oct 2, 2018.

  1. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Master

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    Ask him if he would take them in your situation?
    That will show ho much he knows about the possible side effects and other damage they can do to you.
    Edit to ad completely amazing Trig/HDL ratio nice..
     
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    ArsenalCath Type 2 · Member

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    Should I just stop taking statins? I feel I should stop. A doc on the radio yesterday said they do not prevent heart attacks so why have I been prescribed them. I’m thinking I will just reduce fat intake which is pretty low in any case. I’ve lost half my body weight my last blood results show that I have normal liver function so no fatty liver any more. What I read and hear about statins is not very reassuring. I’m on 40mg a day. My husband who is overweight is only in 10mg. ☹️
     
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    bulkbiker Type 2 · Master

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    We can't advise you what to do... it's a decision you have to make yourself like all medicines.
    My reason for starting the thread was to show that there is a significant body of scientists out there who think statins are not a good idea. I happen to agree with them. Most doctors are apparently unaware of this newer thinking which I'm afraid is more a reflection on them than on their patients.
     
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    #63 bulkbiker, Nov 1, 2018 at 11:04 AM
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    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    You must, must, must make that decision for yourself. Take into account your full lipid profile, your familial history and your personal history. Read up on the articles/studies in this thread, watch some of the lectures and then have the discussion with your GP. Best wishes.
     
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  5. Bluetit1802

    Bluetit1802 Type 2 (in remission!) · Guru

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    You have a very over reactive consultant in my opinion. Those levels are very similar to my last test. This is what NICE says:

    1.3.7 Consider the possibility of familial hypercholesterolaemia and investigate as described in familial hypercholesterolaemia (NICE guideline CG71) if they have:

    • a total cholesterol concentration more than 7.5 mmol/litre and

    • a family history of premature coronary heart disease. [new 2014]
    1.3.8 Arrange for specialist assessment of people with a total cholesterol concentration of more than 9.0 mmol/litre or a non‑HDL cholesterol concentration of more than 7.5 mmol/litre even in the absence of a first‑degree family history of premature coronary heart disease. [new 2014]

    1.3.9 Refer for urgent specialist review if a person has a triglyceride concentration of more than 20 mmol/litre that is not a result of excess alcohol or poor glycaemic control. [new 2014]
     
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  6. Indy51

    Indy51 Type 2 · Expert

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    Your levels don't sound nearly high enough for FH. I remember an endocrinologist telling me they don't think about FH until levels are above 9.0mmol.
     
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  7. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Master

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    KK123 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Thanks to all who replied. I didn't think my levels were high enough either and nearly made a fuss but then thought, well why not go and maybe get some more specific tests. (Don't know exactly what they do but they said to fast as there would be a blood test).
     
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    bulkbiker Type 2 · Master

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    bulkbiker Type 2 · Master

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    Sounds like a good idea..data is always good.
     
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    KK123 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    KK123 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Yep, always good to see these articles. My LDL is most definitely not caused by butter etc though, I personally follow lowish carb, low fat.
     
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    bulkbiker Type 2 · Master

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    Otherwise known as "Big Pharma strikes back..."
     
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    Interesting! Thanks for sharing
     
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    @bulkbiker Thank you for kicking off this thread. Very informative. Will be sharing with hubby who was offered statins a few months into T2 diagnosis by the GP. He said “No thanks”. GP was not happy

    He is now in remission, and stopped all meds from eating LCHF. His Doc thinks it’s all down to Metformin
     
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    bulkbiker Type 2 · Master

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    Drop this one off here too Sat fat is it bad?

     
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    PatsyB Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    when i suggested I should stop taking statins to the Nurse she said I would most probably be dead by now if I had not started taking them when told to ?? so what should I believe and do should I keep take them or should I stop take them//////////
     
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    Mike D Type 2 · Expert

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    Your choice. We cannot tell you what to do apart from looking at the evidence
     
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    Bluetit1802 Type 2 (in remission!) · Guru

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    Read and listen to all the links in this thread, then make up your own mind. We can't tell you one way or the other. All we can do is tell you if we would ever take them. Personally, I will never take them.
     
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