Possibly, but the marketing will bolster the myth and if we are honest if a bread or cake is more expensive because it lowers cholesterol some people will choose to take the statin and eat the cheaper types. And some people may even choose to ingest both.If a company develops such a strain of wheat, the statin companies won't be too pleased!
Possibly, but the marketing will bolster the myth and if we are honest if a bread or cake is more expensive because it lowers cholesterol some people will choose to take the statin and eat the cheaper types. And some people may even choose to ingest both.
Zackly.I agree entirely. We already have the cholesterol busting Benecol and such like. Imagine a slice of bread made with cholesterol reducing wheat flour, spread with Benecol pretend butter. We could end up with zero levels of cholesterol..... and die.
So there's a possibility that LDL tracks A1c, interesting stuff.FULL Ep27: Dave Feldman on LDL and All Cause Mortality - Does Cholesterol Kill You?
So eating a non inflammatory diet would thereby render statins absolutely pointless?My understanding is that the primary benefit of statins for most people is reduction in inflation (e.g. hs-CRP) and stabilization of any soft plaque (i.e. so it doesn’t get inflamed and break off and generate a clot causing a heart attack or stroke). That can sometimes be achieved at very low doses which haven’t shown significant negative effect on blood sugar. There is too much focus on LDL cholesterol as the reason for taking statins.
My understanding is that the primary benefit of statins for most people is reduction in inflation (e.g. hs-CRP) and stabilization of any soft plaque (i.e. so it doesn’t get inflamed and break off and generate a clot causing a heart attack or stroke). That can sometimes be achieved at very low doses which haven’t shown significant negative effect on blood sugar. There is too much focus on LDL cholesterol as the reason for taking statins.
You beat me to it!..Less than five mins of Dave talking about possible inversion of metrics to be found in other long term studies as well as NHANES.
Dave Feldman has just published a new cholesterol calculator here
https://cholesterolcode.com/new-report-tool-launched/
Put my last numbers in and got these results for my "high" cholesterol that prompted a call from the GP!
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I didn't click on the links.. possibly for the best! Although to be fair Dave is fairly dietary agnostic - he has tried lots of different ways of eating to determine their effect on cholesterol.Hi bulkbiker (I feel as though I am stalking you today), I put my figures in (HDL 2.45, trigs 0.5, LDL 4.25) and it all came back as low risk (phew). When you click onto the link below AIP - the 'tinyurl.com' one (that gives you more individual info) it starts going on about the dangers of saturated fat and lists food to avoid as most meat, cheese etc! Surely this is the opposite of what Dave Feldman says...I wonder if he is aware of the links attached to each 'study'??
But even if that were true, who is to say any of us has even got any inflammation? I could almost understand their approach if they offered statins following a proper check of one's arteries or whatever but it is all based on numbers and guesswork. Why should millions be on this drug just because a few might fit the inflammation criteria?
These tests show inflammation: MPO, hs-CRP and micro albumin creatinine ratio, also homocysteine and lp-PLA2. Also, as Ivor Cummings points out frequently it is helpful to know your cardiac calcium score.
This doc is on a low carb diet and believes insulin resistance and inflammation is at the root cause of heart disease but he also takes a very low dose of rosuvastatin due to his own risk factors. He takes it not for cholesterol lowering but for its effect on reducing inflammation.
Sapien, thank you for that. My point is though that although there are MANY tests available including those you mention, NONE of us get them. We are just told 'you have diabetes so you must go on statins'.
Zackly.You beat me to it!..
And if low LDL is a sign of illness why would taking medication to lower LDL be good in any way whatsoever....
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