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HICHAM_T2

HICHAM_T2

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I Often Drink Coffee Without Sugar
the Coffee is not suitable for diabetics, especially with milk ?
 
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I'm about to do some testing with the coffee I drink. I don't believe one cup will make much difference but I have read that caffeine can effect bg even without milk and sugar.
I plan to test at the same time for few days with coffee and then do the same for days without coffee and see if there is much/any difference.
May be worth doing the same to see how if effects you. (I drink a lot of fresh coffee, don't know much about instant)
 
Thanks for your feedback
Really learning things better than ignorance
 
hichamgsm said:
Thanks for your feedback
Really learning things better than ignorance
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There have been studies carried out that support coffee being good for cancer prevention, and also for T2 diabetics. As said earlier, the milk or creamer can add to blood glucose, but double cream seems to be ok since cream is almost zero carbs.

The scientific case for coffee is not sealed in concrete and is still open to discussion, similar to the red wine debate.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...betes/expert-answers/blood-sugar/faq-20057941
 
I recently went to decaf and found caffeine DID effect my morning bs. I suppose caffeine on top of the morning cortisol and adrenaline only makes things worse. It doesn't effect my bg in the after noon.
 
Hi everyone here
Thanks to your feedback I can't drink coffee cup without milk it's hard To remind I don't have cholesterol
 
hichamgsm, I see you on here trying to work out what you can and can't have: that's smart, but if you try to do it one food at a time, it might be troublesome to start with. Let me give you this list from Dr. Richard K Bernstein: it is basically a list of the foods which raise your blood glucose: you might be able to use it as a guide line

Dr Bernstein says DON'T eat the following

  • Avoid all foods with added sugar or honey such as desserts, candies, and pastries; all foods made from grains and grain flours such as breads, cereals, pasta, and rice; all starchy vegetables such as potatoes, corn, carrots, peas, tomatoes, and beans; all fresh or preserved fruits and fruit juices; all dairy products except for butter, cream, and fermented cheeses, as well as full fat yogurt(for dairy products the more the fat content the less carbohydrate content)
Apart from those things, you should generally be OK, although obviously talk to your doctor and test your levels etc.
 
Geordie_P said:
hichamgsm, I see you on here trying to work out what you can and can't have: that's smart, but if you try to do it one food at a time, it might be troublesome to start with. Let me give you this list from Dr. Richard K Bernstein: it is basically a list of the foods which raise your blood glucose: you might be able to use it as a guide line

Dr Bernstein says DON'T eat the following

  • Avoid all foods with added sugar or honey such as desserts, candies, and pastries; all foods made from grains and grain flours such as breads, cereals, pasta, and rice; all starchy vegetables such as potatoes, corn, carrots, peas, tomatoes, and beans; all fresh or preserved fruits and fruit juices; all dairy products except for butter, cream, and fermented cheeses, as well as full fat yogurt(for dairy products the more the fat content the less carbohydrate content)
Apart from those things, you should generally be OK, although obviously talk to your doctor and test your levels etc.
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Hi @Geordie_P
I want to thank you For your wonderful response But Dr He left us only the iron to eat
 
I drink more tea than coffee a lot more in fact.
I dip the tip of a teaspoon into the half sugar half stevia that I use (Halfspoon).
It's probably a 20th of a teaspoon full.
Try coffee with a tablespoonful of unsalted butter instead of milk.
I get an almost illegal mental energy high off it!
Thing is at the end of the day we all have to learn to have a massive cutback on sugar.
I knew an alcoholic who hadn't had a drink for years.
He taught himself to think of being allergic to alcohol.
Allergic to the point it could kill him.
It was his main weapon mentally to overcome it physically.
It also served in dealing with people who would say oh one won't do you any harm for old times sake.
That's the kind of thinking that might help you overcome your fatal attraction to sugar.
I have not heard of coffee being bad for diabetics but make sure to stuff it with fat .... full fat cream or unsalted butter.
 
Green tea with hot water and lemon juice is not only healthy but was also a great tool for realigning my taste buds for having sugar in tea.
 
Geordie_P said:
hichamgsm, I see you on here trying to work out what you can and can't have: that's smart, but if you try to do it one food at a time, it might be troublesome to start with. Let me give you this list from Dr. Richard K Bernstein: it is basically a list of the foods which raise your blood glucose: you might be able to use it as a guide line

Dr Bernstein says DON'T eat the following

  • Avoid all foods with added sugar or honey such as desserts, candies, and pastries; all foods made from grains and grain flours such as breads, cereals, pasta, and rice; all starchy vegetables such as potatoes, corn, carrots, peas, tomatoes, and beans; all fresh or preserved fruits and fruit juices; all dairy products except for butter, cream, and fermented cheeses, as well as full fat yogurt(for dairy products the more the fat content the less carbohydrate content)
Apart from those things, you should generally be OK, although obviously talk to your doctor and test your levels etc.
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I don't think everyone can aspire to the level of perfection that Dr Bernstein advocates, effective though it be for lowering BG levels. Personally, a few cherry tomatoes and slices of raw carrot are what makes my daily salad meal acceptable to me, and likewise a little tomato puree was the only significant carb content of my fish and cooked vegetables meal today and made all the difference to the taste. 100g of raspberries with Greek yoghurt was today's culinary highlight and prevented me from feeling that from now on food represents nothing but duty and deprivation. We are not all heroic enough for keto. Push people too far and we may fall into anorexia on the one hand and bingeing on the other.

Hichamgsm, are you using a meter to test your reactions to the carbs you consume? That way, you can tailor your diet to your individual needs and desires.
 
Semi skimmed milk is 5% sugar. 20 mls milk is 1 g of sugar. I think it would be touch and go as to whether any BG response is due to the sugar or the metabolic stimulation due to the coffee.
For myself I take about 30 gm of beans, grind and filter, black, with a large glass of very cold water.
 
I drink about 2 cups of coffee with or without creamer and I don't notice any difference in my postprandial readings. Coffee is okay for me.
 
hankjam said:
Semi skimmed milk is 5% sugar. 20 mls milk is 1 g of sugar. I think it would be touch and go as to whether any BG response is due to the sugar or the metabolic stimulation due to the coffee.
For myself I take about 30 gm of beans, grind and filter, black, with a large glass of very cold water.
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why the cold water?
i also disagree with nic-picking over pittyful amounts of grams of carbs What matters is the bigger picture, i. e. what is sustainable over a loooong period of time.
 
hichamgsm said:
No I didn't
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You may get fed up with everyone on this forum advising you to test your own bg with a meter! If you are not sure if this is for you, you can order a TEE2 meter
http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/
completely free. It comes with 10 test strips and 10 lancets so you can dip a toe in the water without risk. Then if you want to continue you will need to pay for more strips. 10 lancets should last you a while if, like me and many others, you re-use them. Spirit Health Care also has a free help/order line where you can speak to a real person 24 hours a day: 0800 881 5423
 
Dinet said:
why the cold water?
i also disagree with nic-picking over pittyful amounts of grams of carbs What matters is the bigger picture, i. e. what is sustainable over a loooong period of time.
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I checked the amount of raw carrot and tomatoes I consumed tonight. It added up to just under 5 grammes of carbs. If I were limiting myself to <30g of carbs daily, this would matter. Since I am aiming at under 100 (though actually consuming less) 5g seems to me fairly trivial and not worth ruining my dinner for.
 
Alexandra100 said:
You may get fed up with everyone on this forum advising you to test your own bg with a meter! If you are not sure if this is for you, you can order a TEE2 meter
http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/
completely free. It comes with 10 test strips and 10 lancets so you can dip a toe in the water without risk. Then if you want to continue you will need to pay for more strips. 10 lancets should last you a while if, like me and many others, you re-use them. Spirit Health Care also has a free help/order line where you can speak to a real person 24 hours a day: 0800 881 5423
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I believe @hichamgsm is in Morocco so that may be a problem. The SD Codefree meter available via Amazon is an alternative, it is not free but cheap and the test strips are less expensive than most.
 
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