Confused about carbs

chattycathy28

Member
6
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Hi, I was diagnosed with T2 on 3rd jan (happy new year). My diabetic nurse basically told me that I should stop eating ALL chocolate, cakes, ice cream butter, anything sweet and eat carbs, eat less food in general and follow a sensible diet. I then saw dietitian who told me i need to lose about 4 stones (already knew that) and gave me diabetes uk pamphlet and said eat 7 carb portions a day and yes I could have occasional sugar treat , 2 finger kitkat. I've read lots of conflicting advice on web about carbs. Should I be trying to cut the carbs down? Also, I don't understand the food labelling which says x amount of carbs of which sugars x amount. What should I be looking for? I feel quite thick asking such questions but just a newbie to this lifestyle. Thanks for reading this. :)
 

Hobs

Master
11,797
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Non-insulin injectable medication (incretin mimetics)
Dislikes
Argumenative barstifferous (new word *lol*) types who think that they know everything *wink*
Welcome chattycathy 28

Definitely cut right down on all carbs and also aim for low GI (glycemic index) carbs when you plan your meals.

Personally, if I ate a Kit Kat it would give me one heck of a blood glucose spike, but then we are all different.

Once Daisy1 comes along and sees that you are a new member, she will add the advice 'sheet' to the thread and if you have a printer its best to print it out.

Good luck and keep on looking for advice and words of support
 

chattycathy28

Member
6
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Thanks Hobs. I will cut down the carbs. I thought that was a lot to eat in one day! I have a lot to learn and get my head around and i will start reading through the forum for good advice, I'll be back with more questions. Thanks :)
 

daisy1

Legend
26,457
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Dislikes
Cruelty towards animals.
Hi chattycathy and welcome to the forum :)

Following on from the advice that hobs has given you, here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find this useful. Ask all the questions you need to and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

modesty007

Well-Known Member
567
Type of diabetes
Other
Treatment type
Diet only
Consider going low carb (less than 50 g/day) and you might be able to get off insulin. Look at the low carb forum and this website - www.dietdoctor.com (yes he's a real doctor and have some good advice).