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confused about Glic.

Lynn8124

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hello all. my gp prescribed me glic. around 2 years ago and the DC took me off it because she said it was the last thing I needed as I would gain weight. Last year however, she put me back on it as my a1c was increasing and as I continue to diet and fail I suppose she thought she had to do something to try and normalise my BG.

I have never actually taken it except maybe on the first day. I read in the leaflet it encourages your pancreas to produce insulin which I thought was odd because surely it's the OVER-production of insulin from eating too many sugary things that has caused my diabetes in the first place, well that and having a parent with the same condition?

See, I know I should cut out the junk foods and eat less carbs and that will have a positive effect on my BG level and I think taking Gliclazide and metformin and continuing to eat what I want is defeating the purpose? surely forcing my pancreas to produce insulin will burn it out even quicker? or maybe I have got to the stage where my pancreas is producing very little? my BGL would certainly seem to indicate this and seem to be constanly between 11 and 26! but I know it's due to the food I am eating. I get so frustrated with myself because I can't control myself around food and it's killing me. :(

I honestly dunno what to do apart from keep trying to change my eating habits and the types of food I eat. I was all set to get a gastric bypass last year and was refused "indefinitely" because I couldn't stick to the pre-op diet. I had really hoped being given a date for wls would push me into sticking with it. it was a blessing in disguise though because it would've been a disaster and a waste of a lot of money. I was so angry with myself because I thought it was my answer and it's been difficult to accept that it isn't.

My local council is running a programme called make a change and I have signed up to my local gym. I am building up to uising it 3 times a week aas I don't wanna go mad at the start and then get fed up and stop going. Maybe I should just give in and go back on the Gliclazide?

I also posted on complications board about my eye problem, i'm hoping it's not the start of retinopathy but if it is then I will HAVE to get my condition under control. Sorry this has turned into a bit of a rant but I am so confused and frustrated with myself.
 
Hi,

I think I understand how you're feeling. I've been a T2 diabetic for 13 years and I've only taken it seriously for the last 3 years. I'm having some uncertainty with my eyes at the moment, so I'm feeling a certain amount of anxiety and regret! I've tried lots of diets over the years and I've always put weight back on. I've been taking part in a scheme at my local gym similar to the one you're involved in and it's really helped - congratulate yourself as it is hard work and you've done something positive that will help you. Don't give yourself too much of a hard time; even with the best will in the world weight loss and diabetic control can be hard work.

I can't give you any definite advice about Glic but what I would say that given you are worried about your eyes right now, that you need to get on top of that first. Have an eye check to make sure everything is okay - the advice that people have given you on the other thread suggests things might just be fine. Once you know things are okay then you can move forward calmly and explore options.

I do wish you well.





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The issue you need to get your head around is the relationship between the food you are eating and the level of sugar in your blood. There are many on here that will confirm that for any diabetic that understands their condition, there is no drug regime that will allow you to eat what you want and when you want if you want to avoid complications.

It can be hard and a real pain but you have to get to grips with that simple fact.


Diagnosed type II 1998 2 x 80 mg Gliclazide, 4 x 500mg Metformin and 1 x 100mg Sitagliptin
 
Lynn8124 said:
I can't control myself around food and it's killing me. :(
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But Lynn that is the point -- it IS killing you. Until you get the diet sorted out, the exercise, meds is not going to fix it. Diabetes is nature's way of telling you that you have to act NOW.
 
Thanks everybody. I think the first thing I need to do is dump the load of diet shakes I bought a couple weeks ago, I have been trying to get weight off again using them for the past seven years and it's not happening and every failure is like a kick in the guts, mentally. it's not for me as I just end up more obsessed with food than ever.

The second thing I need to do is get myself used to having three meals a day including breakfast, switch to sweet potatoes and wholegrain bread before I try lower carb eating again and cut out junk food and grazing. Also need to get into a good routine with my sleeping pattern as I am in better form when I am up and about early and feeling more positive and wanting to get out and exercise.

I decided to take a peek at T1 board and read Ellen and Gerard's story...very sad. :(
 
Hi. Your thoughts on Gliclazide are largely correct. It is of most use for those T2s who are not insulin resistant but have an under-performing pancreas. Prescribing it for an overweight insulin resistant is perhaps questionable. Metformin in the first drug of choice for insulin resistance, then onto the injectables. As I'm sure you realise you must tackle your diet. Set a target of, say, 150gm of carbs per day and test 2 hours after a meal and find out which foods affect you most. Some would set a much lower target; it all depends on your will power! Good luck.
 
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