Confused?! What to eat?

LAHend

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My dad has had Type 2 diabetes for a few years and is struggling to keep his blood sugar down. He doesn't do a great deal of cooking from scratch but is finding what to eat very difficult. He starts work at 5am and works until around 12 midday so unable to cook then. Is there a list of foods anywhere that are 'normal' foods he could eat. I.e. Things that can be bought straight from supermarket? Or bought from a website? When looking on websites/recipes etc they always include ingredients that he would never eat.

He was unwell last wk (nothing to do with diabetes) and when he was eating very little his blood sugar was great but now he is on the mend and eating again it's high. He is so confused about the dos and don't of what to eat that he is scunnered!! Any advice appreciated.

Thanks in advance
 

Daibell

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Hi. The general advice many of us would give is to minimise the carbs in the food he eats and be fairly free with the proteins and fats. If you live near an M&S they have a good range of prepared chilled food called 'Balanced carbs' which I find tasty but are quite low in carbs. Other stores may stock similar products but I haven't seen any. Always look at the back of the packet (the Ingredients) and ignore the front traffic light labels. Look for Total carbs. I have eggs and bacon for breakfast together with a very small amount of home-made muesli with no sugar added and cold milk with blueberries.
 
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A dinner I often have that is easy is to throw a couple chicken breasts plain in the oven for 45 minutes or so then throw them in the fridge until cold. Chop it up and add mayo or low carb salad dressing (quite a lot). Put however much you want into a big bowl of ready bagged salad and mix up. You can throw in a handful of shredded cheese too. I use quite a bit of mayo as the fat is needed for it to stick with you and it has very little impact on my blood sugar. If you buy already cooked chicken or turkey it is even easier and quicker. You can do the same with ham, canned shrimp or crab, tuna, salmon,or boiled eggs. Whatever you like. You can have several meals worth in the fridge. Cold boiled eggs and cold sliced meat along with cheeses and dill pickles can be a quick filling meal as well as needing almost no cooking skills or time.
 
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Paul_hocking

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My dad has had Type 2 diabetes for a few years and is struggling to keep his blood sugar down. He doesn't do a great deal of cooking from scratch but is finding what to eat very difficult. He starts work at 5am and works until around 12 midday so unable to cook then. Is there a list of foods anywhere that are 'normal' foods he could eat. I.e. Things that can be bought straight from supermarket? Or bought from a website? When looking on websites/recipes etc they always include ingredients that he would never eat.

He was unwell last wk (nothing to do with diabetes) and when he was eating very little his blood sugar was great but now he is on the mend and eating again it's high. He is so confused about the dos and don't of what to eat that he is scunnered!! Any advice appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Hi thats a difficult one I'm a chef and I hate cooking in lots of pans to give you an idea my normal breakfast is scrambled egg cooked in a microwave with some salt and pepper I guess what is best is what sort of things does he like and what sort of tools does he have at home as a simple omellete with savoury fillings like some mushrooms and ham is something that can be made and chilled and eaten cold like a Spanish omelete I find it handy when I'm getting hunger pangs or boiled eggs snacking is better low carb so you don't get the spikes in ur BS what sort of things does he like to eat as I can imagine he will be stuck in his ways regarding what he likes and there might be little swaps where you can swap something out like if he likes steak and chips or sausage and mash Potato for me is a big nasty I watch how much I eat but Sweet potato I'm good with you might also find a slight increase in activity could also help bring the BS down Hope this helps.
 
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welcome @LAHend and congratulations on trying to help you Dad out.
Do you think there is any chance of him signing up to this forum?
Have a look at www.fixingdad.com for some inspiration from some sons who have done exactly what you are doing.

On the food front some hard boiled eggs in the fridge are a quick and easy 'go to'
 

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He starts work at 5am and works until around 12 midday so unable to cook then. Is there a list of foods anywhere that are 'normal' foods he could eat. I.e. Things that can be bought straight from supermarket? Or bought from a website? When looking on websites/recipes etc they always include ingredients that he would never eat.

Welcome to the forum.

Not eating processed food is a good start, but you've pretty much ruled that out.

I think when people talk about life style changes it refers to more than the food we eat. As inconvenient as a 5am start is, getting up 15 minutes earlier would easily see a couple of eggs and bacon cooked, especially if a microwave is used.

I assume after midday isn't a problem and there's more options but "ready meals" with lower amounts of carb may need finding. Probably easier to cook from scratch, then the world is your oyster except for rice, pasta, potatoes, bread.
 
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@LAHend

Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope this will help you to help your Dad. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 147,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

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Brunneria

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Hi and welcome!

First question - what is he eating that is sending his blood glucose too high?
Second question - what does he LIKE and WANT to eat?
Third question - where does he shop?

There are quite a ready meals and different options available, but there is no point telling him to buy Morrisons ready meals if he shops in Sainsburys, or suggesting a cooked breakfast, if all he wants is toast...

:)
 
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LAHend

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Hi and welcome!

First question - what is he eating that is sending his blood glucose too high?
Second question - what does he LIKE and WANT to eat?
Third question - where does he shop?

There are quite a ready meals and different options available, but there is no point telling him to buy Morrisons ready meals if he shops in Sainsburys, or suggesting a cooked breakfast, if all he wants is toast...

:)

He shops in Asda and likes crackers, cheese, mince, chicken, cold meat, bread, potatoes, rice (I know these are a no no but what could he have instead) salad (but not every day).
 

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The cheese mince chicken and cold meats are great. Eggs any which way. He could hard boil eggs for the week. Mix with mayo if wanted. Veggies and homemade mayo based dip. Or cream cheese. Avocado. Nuts. Anything he would put on a sandwich on a big piece of lettuce instead of bread.
Chop all kinds of veggies with chunks of chicken and or egg and dress with a fatty creamy dressing. Add avocado chunks.

I make dressings/ sauces with a mayo base and either add spicy sauce, mustard, horseradish etc. I just made one with mayo lemon and basil for shrimp salad.
 
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