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I've been insulin resistant for many years now a result I believe of 18 years on heart drugs. However my latest blood results have indicated that I'm now fully diabetic. I'm finding it difficult to get to grips with what is my real problem. How do I ascertain if my body is not producing sufficient insulin, producing too much or that my body can't convert blood sugar to energy.
Surely in order to deal with the issue one needs to know what is actually at fault. ?
My GP is not as yet prescribing medication and I want to keep it that way .
Has anyone got any advice please as some articles imply I need a low carb diet whilst others seem to imply the opposite.
I'm not sure if my diet is as good as I've always believed or if I'm just stupid
 
What is your "good" diet? Welcome by the way ..

Tagging @daisy1 for info
 
I've been insulin resistant for many years now a result I believe of 18 years on heart drugs. However my latest blood results have indicated that I'm now fully diabetic. I'm finding it difficult to get to grips with what is my real problem. How do I ascertain if my body is not producing sufficient insulin, producing too much or that my body can't convert blood sugar to energy.
Surely in order to deal with the issue one needs to know what is actually at fault. ?
My GP is not as yet prescribing medication and I want to keep it that way .
Has anyone got any advice please as some articles imply I need a low carb diet whilst others seem to imply the opposite.
I'm not sure if my diet is as good as I've always believed or if I'm just stupid
You're not stupid. And usually you do need to know what's going on to treat something, but in case of diabetes T2 , well, you can do all the tests if you want, but the treatment is the same in all cases. All carbs turn into glucose once ingested, and as a T2, you can't process them back out efficiëntly. Whether that's because of insulin resistance or a knackered pancreas or a combination of those two, doesn't matter much, really. (If your body is unable to turn sugar into energy, it's usually because of one or both of these things). Low carb does make sense when you look at it like that, right? If you like, read up some on dietdoctor.com or in Dr. Jason Fung's books. @daisy1 has a wonderful info-sheet too, which she'll post soon. (Normally I'd write more, I'm sorry, but was in a little car accident today and now my shoulder's hurting. Am fine otherwise.) But, you know... The low carb thing does work. Really well. My Hba1c was pretty bad when I started out... Within 3 months I was off my diabetes meds and the statins, and in the prediabetic range. At the next test I was non-diabetic, and have remained that way for almost 2 years now. While dropping 25 kilos to boot. Check it out, see if it's something that might suit you. It'll be okay.

G'nite,
Jo
 
Hi. GPs are reluctant to do tests such as the c-peptide to measure insulin output due to costs to the NHS and sometimes ignorance. If you are severely overweight with diabetes then you are almost certainly T2 with insulin resistance and high insulin production. If you are thin then T1 becomes possible with low insulin production. A low-carb diet is right 99% of the time. It won't do any harm and is highly likely to help reduce BS.
 
You're not stupid. And usually you do need to know what's going on to treat something, but in case of diabetes T2 , well, you can do all the tests if you want, but the treatment is the same in all cases. All carbs turn into glucose once ingested, and as a T2, you can't process them back out efficiëntly. Whether that's because of insulin resistance or a knackered pancreas or a combination of those two, doesn't matter much, really. (If your body is unable to turn sugar into energy, it's usually because of one or both of these things). Low carb does make sense when you look at it like that, right? If you like, read up some on dietdoctor.com or in Dr. Jason Fung's books. @daisy1 has a wonderful info-sheet too, which she'll post soon. (Normally I'd write more, I'm sorry, but was in a little car accident today and now my shoulder's hurting. Am fine otherwise.) But, you know... The low carb thing does work. Really well. My Hba1c was pretty bad when I started out... Within 3 months I was off my diabetes meds and the statins, and in the prediabetic range. At the next test I was non-diabetic, and have remained that way for almost 2 years now. While dropping 25 kilos to boot. Check it out, see if it's something that might suit you. It'll be okay.

G'nite,
Jo

Get well soon, Jo.
 
No, you’re not stupid by any means. I think we’re all being given out of date dietary advice and what’s healthy eating one week is damaging the next. I know when I was diagnosed I thought “I’ve looked after myself, this can’t be true”. I had a few years of ill health and my husband, who didn’t know how to cook, took over shopping and meal duties. We ate pre-packed ready meals but still with veg and salad and loads and loads of fruit, both fresh, dried and in liquid form. I have not worked out whether the diabetes was a result of that change in diet or from the medications I was taking but I suppose it doesn’t really matter in the end. I can’t comment about the insulin resistance etc as I haven’t got my head round that yet!
Since diagnosis I try to cook from scratch as then I know what ingredients go into the food. I’ve cut out as much sugar as possible and drastically reduced my carbohydrate intake, eg today i’ve had a pitta bread plus the milk in 2 cappuccinos, and my blood sugar levels are good. I’ve also worked out that most fruit, especially dried fruit and fruit juices cause big spikes in my BS, so I avoid them.
A lot of people on this site advocate high fat/no carb way of eating and get excellent results both in terms of stabilised BS levels and weight loss but do read up on it first as I believe you have to reduce the carbs slowly to give your body time to adjust. There’s a lot of information to take in.
Best wishes x
 
I've been insulin resistant for many years now a result I believe of 18 years on heart drugs. However my latest blood results have indicated that I'm now fully diabetic. I'm finding it difficult to get to grips with what is my real problem. How do I ascertain if my body is not producing sufficient insulin, producing too much or that my body can't convert blood sugar to energy.
Surely in order to deal with the issue one needs to know what is actually at fault. ?
My GP is not as yet prescribing medication and I want to keep it that way .
Has anyone got any advice please as some articles imply I need a low carb diet whilst others seem to imply the opposite.
I'm not sure if my diet is as good as I've always believed or if I'm just stupid

If you want you can get a private fasting insulin test or an insulin resistance test for £39 or £49 from a company called medichecks. I usually wait until I am due a blood test at the surgery then send off for the medichecks kit and ask the phlebotomist to fill the extra vials. They seem happy to do so once I explain that the doctor seems unable to do the test I want.
https://www.medichecks.com/diabetes-tests/insulin-resistance-test
They are very quick to send out the kits (usually with a couple of days) last time I posted off the blood sample at 11.30 am and had the result the next afternoon (they e-mail it through to you).
 
I've been insulin resistant for many years now a result I believe of 18 years on heart drugs. However my latest blood results have indicated that I'm now fully diabetic. I'm finding it difficult to get to grips with what is my real problem. How do I ascertain if my body is not producing sufficient insulin, producing too much or that my body can't convert blood sugar to energy.
Surely in order to deal with the issue one needs to know what is actually at fault. ?
My GP is not as yet prescribing medication and I want to keep it that way .
Has anyone got any advice please as some articles imply I need a low carb diet whilst others seem to imply the opposite.
I'm not sure if my diet is as good as I've always believed or if I'm just stupid
I think most of us thought the same. I have always been overweight so ate low fat yoghurts and milk, avoiding cheese as much as possible, brown everything ie rice, pasta and bread, had jacket potatoes and plenty of fruit inc bananas, oranges, grapes, figs and dates because they were the ‘healthy’ option and still got T2 diabetes - although with my maternal g/father, mother and a sibling with it I think genetics have probably played a part. Reducing carbs works but, as everyone is different, some have to reduce them more than others to reach and maintain their target hba1c and the only way to see what foods raise your BS is by testing.
 
@EastHammer

Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will come along and help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

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