I had egg bits for breakfast and 2 hrs later bs 7.9. Read on this site that drink water and take a walk would help. So that is what I did but an hour later bs up to 9.7. I don’t know what to do, is it slow metabolism or a liver dump? Frustrated this stuff is stressing me out which raises my bs. What should I do?
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Hello and welcome. If you would like to share information about your diabetes, i.e., Type 1 or 2, your blood glucose at diagnosis, and the food(s) you currently eat, it will help other members to offer more informed advice (bearing in mind this being Christmas Eve traffic might be lighter than usual).
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Hi @Penroy ,
Walking is usually very good after meals to steady BG levels.
The idea is to flatten the curve of the spike by walking, the recommended time to do the walk is fifteen minutes after food for fifteen minutes. Longer walking is optional, but of course it's up to the individual.
Water is good in any context, to hydrate the body, but it can be tea or coffee, with limited carbs in it.
I will add that if you have already depleted your glucose, have insulin resistance, your body may respond with a liver dump (glucogenisis). Which is natrual, when doing exercises that depleted the glucose derived from the meal. Your glucose after that two hours had lowered to produce that probably.
It is confusing, and as I said, individual, we will advise from our experience, but how you treat your diabetes, is your own experience and the result of trial and error.
Best wishes
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What was your blood sugar level just before you ate your breakfast, the 7.9 2hr after means very little without knowing your pre breakfast level.
Also did you check that 9.7 after your walk by doing a second test to confirm the higher than expected result.
Our meters are not perfect and can quite often give inaccurate results. Of course it's possible that your walk prompted your liver to release some glucose but without confirming the result, it's equally possible that your high reading was caused by a faulty test strip or even something on your fingers giving a false result.
High @Penroy
Merry Christmas.
I noted you have been at this a while, so forgive me, if I'm teaching you to such eggs....
( Warning: way too long a post, once I got started.
But as one who has had a terrible two years, I need to get back to a lchf diet.
So some of this ended up being directed at me, & very cathartic...so please pass by & ignore...no offence taken.
But the advice WAS from the heart AND meant for YOU. )
I took the liberty of looking back over some of your previous posts.
Perhaps if I may offer a slightly differing view ?
I know everyone gets concerned over the BG & especially the FBG results we all aim for...I know I did.
But I wonder if you might perhaps be undoing some of your own efforts trying to achieve a better fbg ? And there by all BG's taken .
For my own take after DX, I imagined my self internally as a large pot.
Happy chugging along, sadly topping my inner pot up with glucose until finally the pot spills over, and I officially became T2D.
Happy 2018, JJ ...lol
The lchf I went on had the goal of lowering the glucose I was putting into that pot.
And the exercising I began doing was to use up what I put in that pot each day.
Put in too much, I spill over if I don't use it up
Use it up and pot lowers a bit each day, until I get it back to a safer HBA1c.
A rather simple balancing act to understand
However that is complicated by our bodies reaction.
In defending us from ourselves, I think it goes into survival mode and overrides our intentions thinking we're endangering ourselves.
*I actually thought that excess being dumped by my body into my pot, CAUSED it to spill over, so as long as I was doing things right, THAT spillover was a Good thing.
All a long way to say that what I felt I had to do, was force it to accept my new normal way of eating until it accepted I wasn't in danger & I could manage without that glucose/insulin dump it gave at times of it's anticipated 'danger'...making that morning 'Dump' a good thing.
I personally thought that the high early morning testing IF I fasted properly, was my body using up the glucose I had in excess ( all that lovely glucose our bodies had stuffed into all our cavities over the years..as Dr Fung writes, because we are inefficient at using up the glucose we digest, hence T2D)
To that end I tried to make the fast as long as possible in the hope , as I saw it, that my body wrung out it's emergency supplies of stored glucose asap.
I admit I dipped my toes into lchf gently (I mean ,after all the doom & gloom of DX, could the solution simply be to change my diet, an option so basic, it seemed impossible it could actually work)
But once I saw the proof (for me) I went all in.
Two meals a day, no snacks, and some exercise post meal to use up some glucose, and no late night eating.
And it was that re-training of my bodies 'Expectations' of what I actually needed, that began the deliberate depletion of my stored glucose, and paired with a lowering of glucose input, that I credit for reducing my weight & most importantly taking me from a 57 HBA1c to a normal 40 HBA1c within 8 months.
So, I say let the morning numbers BE what they are, no snacks to combat the sunrise syndrome (love that phrase, btw )
In trying to let your body rid itself of the excess glucose, numbers will be high, I'd suggest for a while ..if it was me (and it was) I'd try a whole month to see if I could reset & train my body to regulate it's reactions to my new way of eating ,
Like I say at the top, I know you have been at this a while, but while I don't like the boot camp approach of the ND, as I think it's unsustainable over time versus how translatable lchf is as a lifestyle choice, I do think and agree a fresh start for all of us trying to reduce the effects of T2D.
Does to my mind, require an attempt to 'drain' away the pot,
Whether we are just starting out OR trying to restart or reset our diet & goals .
Best wishes on your journey, and finding a way that suits you & brings the benefits you seek .
JJ.
Merry Christmas.
I noted you have been at this a while, so forgive me, if I'm teaching you to such eggs....
( Warning: way too long a post, once I got started.
But as one who has had a terrible two years, I need to get back to a lchf diet.
So some of this ended up being directed at me, & very cathartic...so please pass by & ignore...no offence taken.
But the advice WAS from the heart AND meant for YOU. )
I took the liberty of looking back over some of your previous posts.
Perhaps if I may offer a slightly differing view ?
I know everyone gets concerned over the BG & especially the FBG results we all aim for...I know I did.
But I wonder if you might perhaps be undoing some of your own efforts trying to achieve a better fbg ? And there by all BG's taken .
For my own take after DX, I imagined my self internally as a large pot.
Happy chugging along, sadly topping my inner pot up with glucose until finally the pot spills over, and I officially became T2D.
Happy 2018, JJ ...lol
The lchf I went on had the goal of lowering the glucose I was putting into that pot.
And the exercising I began doing was to use up what I put in that pot each day.
Put in too much, I spill over if I don't use it up
Use it up and pot lowers a bit each day, until I get it back to a safer HBA1c.
A rather simple balancing act to understand
However that is complicated by our bodies reaction.
In defending us from ourselves, I think it goes into survival mode and overrides our intentions thinking we're endangering ourselves.
*I actually thought that excess being dumped by my body into my pot, CAUSED it to spill over, so as long as I was doing things right, THAT spillover was a Good thing.
All a long way to say that what I felt I had to do, was force it to accept my new normal way of eating until it accepted I wasn't in danger & I could manage without that glucose/insulin dump it gave at times of it's anticipated 'danger'...making that morning 'Dump' a good thing.
I personally thought that the high early morning testing IF I fasted properly, was my body using up the glucose I had in excess ( all that lovely glucose our bodies had stuffed into all our cavities over the years..as Dr Fung writes, because we are inefficient at using up the glucose we digest, hence T2D)
To that end I tried to make the fast as long as possible in the hope , as I saw it, that my body wrung out it's emergency supplies of stored glucose asap.
I admit I dipped my toes into lchf gently (I mean ,after all the doom & gloom of DX, could the solution simply be to change my diet, an option so basic, it seemed impossible it could actually work)
But once I saw the proof (for me) I went all in.
Two meals a day, no snacks, and some exercise post meal to use up some glucose, and no late night eating.
And it was that re-training of my bodies 'Expectations' of what I actually needed, that began the deliberate depletion of my stored glucose, and paired with a lowering of glucose input, that I credit for reducing my weight & most importantly taking me from a 57 HBA1c to a normal 40 HBA1c within 8 months.
So, I say let the morning numbers BE what they are, no snacks to combat the sunrise syndrome (love that phrase, btw )
In trying to let your body rid itself of the excess glucose, numbers will be high, I'd suggest for a while ..if it was me (and it was) I'd try a whole month to see if I could reset & train my body to regulate it's reactions to my new way of eating ,
Like I say at the top, I know you have been at this a while, but while I don't like the boot camp approach of the ND, as I think it's unsustainable over time versus how translatable lchf is as a lifestyle choice, I do think and agree a fresh start for all of us trying to reduce the effects of T2D.
Does to my mind, require an attempt to 'drain' away the pot,
Whether we are just starting out OR trying to restart or reset our diet & goals .
Best wishes on your journey, and finding a way that suits you & brings the benefits you seek .
JJ.
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I go for a 2 mile walk every morning and no matter where my bs starts I always get a liver dump to shoot it up by 2 - 3 I think it's just our bodies response to stress !
