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IN July I was tested for diabetes and the test came out OK. I kind of decided to go on a diet, cut out a lot of sweet stuff, lost over a stone.

In December., doc sent me fpr some routine blood tests (to do with high blood pressure medications I am taking: After being called back for a couple more blood tests I was found to be type two diabetic.

I have no symptoms of diabetes and over the last three days tested myself with a home monitor,

Day 1 reading was 5.6 before breakfast and 6.3 in the afternoon.
Day 2 reading was 5.3 before breakfast and 6.7 just after 11pm
This morning I had a reading of 7 before breakfast and 9.9 two hours later

Now the nurse at the practice gave me 500mg of breakfast and told me to increase it by 500 in two weeks, which I have not taken yet!

I think this is the result of the bodies shock of getting so much less chocolate :)

But seriously what d9o I make of it all, been searching the net and got nowhere
 
Hi Glass and welcome to the forum :)

This is the information we give to new members and I hope it will help you to see things clearer. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will answer.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi there. If it was me I would ask them on what basis they have concluded you have diabetes. The doctor should have shared the blood results with you and explained it. How about doing a test after eating a meal? Hope you get some answers.


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Hi. I agree the doc should have given you some form of test. The formal one is the GGT (Glucose Tolerance Test) but they don't like doing it because it requires staff attention over 2 hours. The HBa1C test is good and shows your average blood sugar over the last 3 months. GPs often do this after a few weeks of dieting. I guess you are taking Metformin which the GP will normally increase gradually. It's a good drug most of us start with. If you have stomach problems which don't fade then ask for the Slow Release version Metformin SR. Hopefully if you follow Daisy's links to low-carb dieting your HBa1C test which you should have (ask if and when) shortly will show you whether you are within the right range. Test yourself 2 hours after a meal. I think you will find your figures will turn out fine. BTW 85% Dark Chocolate is OK to have!
 
Hi, thanks for your replies.

Yes I had a GGT test, sorry I did not make this clear. Not sure what the result were as I was 7 minutes late for the appointment, I waited another 6 minutes to see the nurse and was told she had no time to give me details. I found a local drop in clinic for diabetes so will drop in

There is history in my family of type 2 diabetes, but it usually occurs 20 years later.

It bothers me that the readings I am getting is normal or not much higher then normal and the amount of Metformin prescribed. Comparing the amount and readings of my mother and aunties who developed diabetes there readings are Metformin they are taking
 
I think I would ask for an HBA1c test. My GP is a pill pusher but I made it clear that I wouldn't consider any medication at the moment and that I would see if I could control it by diet alone. He measured my waist and weighed me and gave me a sort of well let's see if you are upto it. Well with ten weeks to go I have lost 11Kg and all my readings are in the 6s and 7s with some 5s so, if this continues, my HBA1c will be way down from what it was. Blood glucose tests are just a snapshot with highs and lows, HBA1c is a much better reflection of the 3 months and, as far as I am concerned, if I keep that low through diet alone, I shouldn't need medication.
 
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