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viper7630

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Hi all, merry Xmas, I'm relatively newly diagnosed with type 2, I've been on a Desmond course which was very very informative, all my numbers were very good, they were coming down and everyone's happy, I have to date never felt ill through my diabetes, however, I had a drink boxing day night, quite a large drink if I'm honest, but 2 days later I still feel unwell, I don't drink much, hardly anything tbh, but as with many things I always wonder if it's my diabetes, how could I expect to feel if it was general xmas overindulgence? I thought I'd be good that I could " handle " my first diabetic xmas, I was wrong but I will learn
 
Hi Viper
I'm T2 like you alcohol can effect us in different ways I too have had a good session or two over Xmas and felt the effects but to be honest it's only the same as before my diagnosis.
That said your meds and alcohol can have An effect
Do you test your sugar levels?
Desmond is informative but they tend to push the nhs eat well plate which as many on here will tell you is not necessarily the best diet for a diabetic.

Tell us a little more and ask any questions you want someone will be able to advise
 
Thank you, I don't have any medication at all, is purely diet based, but as everything since I've had my diagnosis it's always in the back of my mind " well has my diabetes anything to do with " kind of thoughts
 
I was diagnosed just before Christmas a couple of years ago and have too been controlling it with diet and exercise.

Firstly, lots and lots of people wonder if every ache, pain, cough, sneeze, lack of energy, bout of breathlessness etc etc is due to diabetes. The answer is mostly no. The sort of problems Type 2 diabetics who are not on strong meds get are serious long term effects of having too much glucose in the blood. They are not these short term ailments or odd feelings.

Just watch what you eat, cut out the sugary stuff, reduce the amount of carbs that you eat and those that you do eat, stick to complex carbs. That will help your BG levels. Exercise will help improve your insulin sensitivity and over time, also help to reduce your BG levels. If you lose enough weight, you will also produce more insulin by reboosting some beta cells which are not yet dead, but not quite functioning properly. The combination of all three will help tremendously.

But, you will still have off days, just the same as non diabetics do.
 
Hi Viper and welcome.

Yes, we get many people posting on here about every ache and pain they have, wondering if it diabetes related. It usually isn't. Even non diabetics feel unwell. It's just human nature to blame diabetes. Most diabetic complications only occur when blood sugars are high and have been high for some time.

What were your diagnostic blood test results? Have you got a print out of these? If not, it is worth asking for a copy for future reference and so you know exactly which tests you have had.

I agree the Desmond course may have set you on the wrong foot as far as diet is concerned. Sadly, the NHS hasn't yet caught up with what type 2's should and should not be eating, but if you have a good browse round the forum you will soon pick things up. Ask as many questions as you like.
 
Hi and welcome. As others have said it will be worth knowing what NHS diet advice you were given. If you have excess weight then the advice was probably wrong and suggesting you have carbs with everything. Reduce the carbs substantially and don't worry about fat and protein. Yes, we all tend to think that all aches and pains are due to the diabetes but they usually aren't unless your diabetes is advanced. Alcohol is not a problem as you aren't on meds.
 
Amazing responses guys, thanks, it is an awful lot to get your head round I know that much, and yes, it's all too easy to try and find a connection between x and diabetes but we sometimes get so much information it's easy for some stuff to fall through the cracks, I guess if anything it's been a reminder that even at xmas you don't get a diabetes holiday :-(
 
Thank you, I don't have any medication at all, is purely diet based, but as everything since I've had my diagnosis it's always in the back of my mind " well has my diabetes anything to do with " kind of thoughts

So true Viper
The love of my life is a T1 and luckily I seem to have been caught early
But it's very easy to get caught up in the every ache and pain we never noticed before is a diabetes complication
When in reality it's not
We just have to be more aware that's all and try not to worry about the small things
 
Amazing responses guys, thanks, it is an awful lot to get your head round I know that much, and yes, it's all too easy to try and find a connection between x and diabetes but we sometimes get so much information it's easy for some stuff to fall through the cracks, I guess if anything it's been a reminder that even at xmas you don't get a diabetes holiday :-(

Hi @viper7630
Hope you feel better soon.
Welcome to forum. As you are new @daisy1 will soon be posting info for new members. Have a read and ask questions. We learn from each other, and this is a great source of support.
 
@viper7630

Hello and welcome to the forum :)

I'm glad to see you have received some responses and help to your questions. Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Carry on asking questions as there is always help available here.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 130,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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