Covid/Coronavirus and diabetes - the numbers

Mbaker

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I almost added that, but from me its a broken record, so glad you did. I was glad to see Professor Gupta back on the box yesterday, she has been hammered by the anointed as pointed out on this site https://www.diabetes.co.uk/news/202...-immunity-covid-19-approach-as-unethical.html.
Julia Hartley-Brewer has asked the questions of the experts and government reps for several weeks (also have Ivor on)

(I'm gonna send a message and ask if she will look with the same critical eye at the dietary side).
 

Jaylee

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Hi guys. don't mind me.. just trying to chop some sense into the debate? I won't quote out of context, however i will bold.

Not at the moment it isn't.. everything else is being cancelled... hadn't you noticed.

And in 2018 what did the NHS do?


Where are the Nightingales that were created at enormous expense?

Birmingham – the National Exhibition Centre Bristol – the Exhibition and Conference Centre on University of West England’s (UWE) Frenchay campus Exeter – a former retail outlet in Sowton Yorkshire – Harrogate Convention Centre Manchester – the Manchester Central Convention Complex Washington, Sunderland – the Centre of Excellence for Sustainable Advanced Manufacturing

The Nightingales are there, fully equipped. However, they need staff. The staff have to be taken from hospitals, leaving shortages in hospitals and elsewhere, which leads to cancellation of other medical procedures.


Birmingham – the National Exhibition Centre Bristol – the Exhibition and Conference Centre on University of West England’s (UWE) Frenchay campus Exeter – a former retail outlet in Sowton Yorkshire – Harrogate Convention Centre Manchester – the Manchester Central Convention Complex Washington, Sunderland – the Centre of Excellence for Sustainable Advanced Manufacturing.

The Dean of the Faculty of Intensive Care Medicine, Dr. Pittard, said so during an interview last night. I saw no reason to doubt her.

Did you read that before you posted it? It's in use for radiology outpatients so it's not being staffed by skilled ICU specialists.

Exactly Nightingales are not sitting there waiting to be used..
Excel I believe has been decommissioned as a hospital.

The Nightingale hospitals were all officially opened in April or May and had all been placed on standby or repurposed by July.

Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2020/10/09/are-...ing-used-how-many-built-13395246/?ito=cbshare


What do you mean "exactly". Talk about moving goalposts.

There are not enough ICU staff for effective Covid management, there never were.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...es-nightingale-hospital-to-turn-away-patients

I was responding to @Bluetit1802 statement that
"The Nightingales are there, fully equipped"
I said they weren't and then posted supporting evidence.


As for nurses there are 180,000 approx in the NHS and so far just under 11,000 patients in hospital with COVID,
Of those less than 1,000 are in ICU.

At the moment there is no evidence of either inundation or failure to cope.

Bar "exel" that has dropped off the map back in May? @bulkbiker with reference to the first quote in red, purley to ID it in my comment.

Just to clarify, are you saying these "Nightingales" don't exist?
Or that the Nightingales do, but with inadequate staffing??
 

bulkbiker

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Hi guys. don't mind me.. just trying to chop some sense into the debate? I won't quote out of context, however i will bold.



Birmingham – the National Exhibition Centre Bristol – the Exhibition and Conference Centre on University of West England’s (UWE) Frenchay campus Exeter – a former retail outlet in Sowton Yorkshire – Harrogate Convention Centre Manchester – the Manchester Central Convention Complex Washington, Sunderland – the Centre of Excellence for Sustainable Advanced Manufacturing





Birmingham – the National Exhibition Centre Bristol – the Exhibition and Conference Centre on University of West England’s (UWE) Frenchay campus Exeter – a former retail outlet in Sowton Yorkshire – Harrogate Convention Centre Manchester – the Manchester Central Convention Complex Washington, Sunderland – the Centre of Excellence for Sustainable Advanced Manufacturing.







The Nightingale hospitals were all officially opened in April or May and had all been placed on standby or repurposed by July.

Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2020/10/09/are-...ing-used-how-many-built-13395246/?ito=cbshare






Bar "exel" that has dropped off the map back in May? @bulkbiker with reference to the first quote in red, purley to ID it in my comment.

Just to clarify, are you saying these "Nightingales" don't exist?
Or that the Nightingales do, but with inadequate staffing??

Excel is reopened for exhibitions so that certainly is no longer there. As for the others I have no idea... the metro article that says they have been re-purposed was the one I quoted too. If they have been re-purposed then they aren't there for the purpose they were commissioned for?
 

Jaylee

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Excel is reopened for exhibitions so that certainly is no longer there. As for the others I have no idea... the metro article that says they have been re-purposed was the one I quoted too. If they have been re-purposed then they aren't there for the purpose they were commissioned for?

Thanks for clarifying. :)

My "local" appears to be getting "winter ready?" https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristols-nightingale-hospital-getting-winter-4544332

Though, according to this regarding "Brizzle"earlier in October. "provide additional capacity for the city’s eye hospital,"
https://www.theguardian.com/society...pened-to-englands-seven-nightingale-hospitals
Encouragingly with Excel on the same article. it appears they have managed to retain "500 intensive care beds?"
 

Bill_St

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Even before Covid ....
https://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/early/2020/09/14/dc20-1485
Just distributed by NICE.

“31% reduced risk of all-cause mortality and a 38% reduced risk of CVD mortality”
CONCLUSIONS Higher serum 25(OH)D levels were significantly associated with lower all-cause and CVD mortality. These findings suggest that maintaining adequate vitamin D status may lower mortality risk in individuals with diabetes.”
 

urbanracer

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I think the idea of Covid-19 causing T1 Diabetes has come up before but this is the first time I've seen some numbers assocoiated with the prevalence.
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The full article is behind a paywall but is not impossible to read if you have 'the knack'.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/02/01/covid-new-onset-diabetes/?itid=hp-top-table-main