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Covid/Coronavirus and diabetes - the numbers

bulkbiker said:
Where are the Nightingales that were created at enormous expense?
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The Nightingales are there, fully equipped. However, they need staff. The staff have to be taken from hospitals, leaving shortages in hospitals and elsewhere, which leads to cancellation of other medical procedures.
 
Mbaker said:
Yes very useful, I am interested what they don't show, that a couple of these graphs hint at. My understanding is that the younger ones started the bulk of the second spread, along with inputs from eat out to help out and cumulative other inputs, which has progressed to the more vulnerable groups. What I would like help with is is for the number of deaths per day what is the age breakdown - I think this is the critical path.
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Weekly death figures by age and sex "from" COVID are available at the ONS website

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...nalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales

COVID-19 Weekly Registrations
 
bulkbiker said:
Weekly death figures by age and sex "from" COVID are available at the ONS website

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...nalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales

COVID-19 Weekly Registrations
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Great thanks. This cements my personal assessment


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I wish there were double the amount of age filters e.g 45 -55. My reading of what is there (in the context of the standard UK health status) is that those who are 65 years and above need to be given extra protection, those who are 45 plus should be very careful and everyone else mindful.
 
urbanracer said:
Did you read that before you posted it? It's in use for radiology outpatients so it's not being staffed by skilled ICU specialists.
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Exactly Nightingales are not sitting there waiting to be used..
Excel I believe has been decommissioned as a hospital.
 
Mbaker said:
Great thanks. This cements my personal assessment


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I wish there were double the amount of age filters e.g 45 -55. My reading of what is there (in the context of the standard UK health status) is that those who are 65 years and above need to be given extra protection, those who are 45 plus should be very careful and everyone else mindful.
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And of course attempt to get more metabolically healthy for all ages.
 
bulkbiker said:
And of course attempt to get more metabolically healthy for all ages.
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Few seem to have noticed that the government's big health campaign in relation to susceptibility to coronavirus complications lasted about a day before they got bored and gave up. Pushback from Big Sugar maybe...
 
bulkbiker said:
And of course attempt to get more metabolically healthy for all ages.
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And tough luck for those like me who have been trying to be metabolically healthy for years and not managed to get there. I know, 'low hanging fruit' best to let them fall so everyone else can get on with their lives.
 
urbanracer said:
What do you mean "exactly". Talk about moving goalposts.

There are not enough ICU staff for effective Covid management, there never were.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...es-nightingale-hospital-to-turn-away-patients
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I was responding to @Bluetit1802 statement that
"The Nightingales are there, fully equipped"
I said they weren't and then posted supporting evidence.

As for nurses there are 180,000 approx in the NHS and so far just under 11,000 patients in hospital with COVID,
Of those less than 1,000 are in ICU.

At the moment there is no evidence of either inundation or failure to cope.
 
zand said:
And tough luck for those like me who have been trying to be metabolically healthy for years and not managed to get there. I know, 'low hanging fruit' best to let them fall so everyone else can get on with their lives.
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Not at all.. hopefully you are staying as safe as you can.
But as you've had it already and should have immunity then you should be fine?
 
zand said:
And tough luck for those like me who have been trying to be metabolically healthy for years and not managed to get there. I know, 'low hanging fruit' best to let them fall so everyone else can get on with their lives.
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Not sure anyone is saying that. I can't speak for @bulkbiker but my own opinion is that government would serve the nation better by encouraging properly healthy nutrition instead of promoting high grain, high fructose diets and then locking us up when we get sick.
 
bulkbiker said:
Not at all.. hopefully you are staying as safe as you can.
But as you've had it already and should have immunity then you should be fine?
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I had it 8 months ago. They are saying that immunity only lasts for a few months. I am metabolically less healthy now than I was pre Covid-19, plus my heart and brain continue to be affected by long covid. I am now on beta blockers. I am scared of getting it again.
 
Jim Lahey said:
Not sure anyone is saying that. I can't speak for @bulkbiker but my own opinion is that government would serve the nation better by encouraging properly healthy nutrition instead of promoting high grain, high fructose diets and then locking us up when we get sick.
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I agree, but we both know that won't happen.:rolleyes:
 
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