Dawn Phenomenon

Lizzeeee

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Hi, struggling with blood sugar levels but taking advice on here and also experimenting. My BS are very high in the morning. I have tried not having breakfast and only eating between 12 and 6pm. However, my levels go up before lunch, rather than down. Any point not having breakfast? Thanks.
 

Lobsang Tsultim

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Whether you have breakfast or not is up to you. Personally, I feel hungry in the morning so I do. I often feel less hungry in the evening and so don't bother with an evening meal. Sticking to a regime of 3 meals every day often isn't necessary for everyone. Do what works for you :)
 
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Lizzeeee

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Whether you have breakfast or not is up to you. Personally, I feel hungry in the morning so I do. I often feel less hungry in the evening and so don't bother with an evening meal. Sticking to a regime of 3 meals every day often isn't necessary for everyone. Do what works for you :)
Thank you, I was surprised I could skip breakfast without gnawing my arm off mid-morning. I am the opposite to you, and get hungry in the evening.
 

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@Lizzeeee Allowing DP to continue unabated until lunch time is a choice.
On the one hand it's running down your body's fat stores, but on the other it means having higher BG levels than you might otherwise. So for me it would be a question of how high those BG levels get to.

Most people find that any low/no carb snack will convince the liver to halt the DP process. Some can even halt it with a coffee with double cream (no sugar obviously).
 
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This is due to insulin resistance. Also cortisol is usually peaking at this time.

what works for me is eating breakfast to cancel out cortisol, and going for a brisk walk to burn up glucose. Get those GLUT-4 receptors going.

bty my breakfast is low carb. Lately it’s been two eggs, 100grams of smoked salmon and a green chili pepper.
 
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Yeah, I have a liver spurting out excess glucose issue in the morning too. Breakfast is a definite good thing for my BG, but I agree with @ianf0ster - it's a choice between the window of eating thing, and the higher BG thing.

I choose to eat to halt the glucose loading, and I like breakfast. Yum.
 
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@Lizzeeee Allowing DP to continue unabated until lunch time is a choice.
On the one hand it's running down your body's fat stores, but on the other it means having higher BG levels than you might otherwise. So for me it would be a question of how high those BG levels get to.

Most people find that any low/no carb snack will convince the liver to halt the DP process. Some can even halt it with a coffee with double cream (no sugar obviously).
What is DP, please?
 

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DP is abbreviation for Dawn Phenomenon which is when the liver dumps glucose into the bloodstream to provide energy for us cave-dwellers to go hunt/gather our breakfast.

I don't distinguish between DP and FOTF (Foot On The Floor) since most people don't do a Blood Glucose test whilst still in bed and so have no way (CGM excepted) of knowing when it started.