Defatizing info and links 800kcal diet

Defren said:

It worked for me, and I had my GP's support, not right at the beginning, but I lost so much weight one week, I decided to tell him, and he made sure all was well for the duration of the diet. I would suggest anyone tries this to defat the internal organs and help the pancreas, but would be more wary if people used it purely for weight loss.

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Living-by-the-beach said:

@Defren

I am curious of your numbers with ND. Starting BMI & how long before you felt improvements with ND?..

JM

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bkr said:

I really enjoyed reading all this, as Im on the 'cusp' of running an 800 calory or so diet (would 1000 have the same effect do you know?)

How did you get on Johnts & ianpiper if you dont mind my asking please? - this is all very encouraging & liberating to think on.

Any further information would be greatly appreciated, Im keen to hear how any of you found it to be & how you feel now.

Many thanks in advance

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kaazoom said:

I've just seen my GP about my latest hba1c blood test. He said I ave moderate control and need to be tested again in 3 months. He is alo referring me to a nutritionist as I have really struggled with adapting my diet. The advice to eat a normal balanced diet, something I have always done, is of little or no help to me.

I read about the results of the study using the Optifast diet and this looks a everything is spelt out. I may be thick, but that I need a plan that takes little thought. The problem for me is Optifast is expensive, but reading this thread I can see that even using Slimfast might work. I can afford that.

I have one query. In the original diet used in the study is say no dairy, not even skimmed milk. If this is so, what are the shakes mixed with? :? Or is this just saying no additional skimmed milk?[/QUOTE

Hi Kazoom, I want to comment on the nutritionist. You should go, if you haven't already. My nutritionist told me to eat small meals every 3-4 hours and a snack, and they will tell you how many calories to eat at each meal and how many CARBS, which is the most important thing. I think it was 4 meals? Or many 3, but 4 sounds right. The nutritionist was trying to get me to lose weight slowly, like 1 pound a week, so I think my meals were 350-400 cal a meal, around 1700 cal per day, which I didn't like because I wanted to lose weight faster. Anyway, you will be happy you went to a nutritionist.

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Roytaylorjasonfunglover said:

A new Talk by Professor Roy Taylor, the man behind the 800 calorie diet,

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minn said:

My first post- ever, I've never joined a forum before. I read about the Newcastle study in the summer and after mulling over all the info ( though limited by the fact that I'm no scientist) decided to give it a go. I am an angry T2 'diabetic':- having been diagnosed with a different chronic illness in my early 20s, and spent nearly 20 years getting that under control (an experience which has left me with a profound scepticism regarding the HCPs ) I was furious after a few years of 'normal' life to find myself saddled with another label. The practice nurse and I are in a state of open warfare and my GP flinches when she sees me coming. I am not on any medication for the diabetes- when the medical profession shifted the goalposts a few years ago so that it was 'recommended' that I go on metformin even though my BG levels were the same as the previous couple of years I refused- I've taken too many tablets over the years, and endured enough medical u turns to add things to the drug cocktail when nothing has changed.
I ran the plan past my GP at the annual MOT and she has approved it. I found this forum when searching for other people's experiences. I must say the open hostility of some people to this experiment made me reluctant to join in and post anything, and it isnt something I would normally do, but after following the 'guinea pigs' posts for a couple of weeks it seemed cowardly not to contribute.
I've identified an 8 week period when it will be easiest to stick to, ( family back at work/school/university and no birthdays/anniversaries/celebrations to distract me) which starts on 19th September, I've ordered the drinks, taken a raincheck on all socialising that revolves around eating and am ready to get on with it. I will post my starting BG, weight etc on the 19th. Many thanks to those who have posted their experiences- you've been a great help.

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Jay Fleming said:

I'm impressed that you've already planned out your 8-week period and that you've taken steps to eliminate distractions from your diet.

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