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DIABETES INSIPIDUS

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harveysandhu

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Hi All , I was diagnosed type 2 about 2 yrs ago ,ans have manged to keep my blood sugar readings to less than 7 average is @ 5-6.5 mmol .However recently am getting severe thirst and the need to urinate ,and some nights i can be up 2-3 times for a drink and a pee.Now i know i could be barking up the wrong tree ,but has anybody had the same symptoms and later been diagnosed for Diabetes Insipidus?.Or are my symptoms typical of type 2?.
 
Hi harveysandhu

I was diagnosed T2 Nov 09, I dont get the thirst as often as I did these days but I do have to get up quite a few times during the night to pee, especially just after I have gotten into bed, I have been putting it down to the amount of tea I drink though.
 
sugarless sue , i test 2-3 times a day , after breakfast after lunch and last around 8-9 at night .Should i be testing more often? .if so when are the best times to test.
 
Best is to test just before eating then two hours after you finished that meal. This shows you how much your meal has affected your blood sugars. Maybe you should test just before going to bed to see if it is high then.

What sort of things do you eat ? Maybe there will be a clue there.
 
Sugarless, Generally i have a mixed diet consisting 60% protein ( eggs cheese, chicken,ham,Red meat ,fish) 20% veg and the rest is wholemeal bread, pitta bread and the odd homemade brownies ,cupcakes (1 a day ,the missus bakes em ,yummy) .I do go out for a beer on a fri night where i will have 6-7 pints of stella and a bag of peanuts(ok and a 3 pints on a wed). I go to the gym 2-3 times a week and am in good shape,so i don'nt think i abuse my body.Also i always get the urge to have a hot/choclate drink made from milk/water 50% before bed with 2-3 rich tea.There you go ,thats my bad habits what do you think ?
 
Sugarless, i know it sounds bad,but its only once a week,and the rest of my diet does'nt sound too bad? .Maybe i should get onto the whisky&water On a serious note do i need to rethink my diet and stick to a low carb diet where i actually weight my Carbs.
 
It might only be once a week.....however it is not good. :shock:

115g carbs is more than I would eat in a day. My daily carb count varies between 70 - 100 g only. That is probably a lot more than most low carbers would eat !

As for the rest of your diet, there are a lot of carbs there. Here is the info we give to newbies, have a read and sort out what applies to you and is good for you.

Here is the advice we usually give to newly diagnosed type 2 diabetics.This forum doesn't always follow the recommended dietary advice, you have to work out what works for you as we are all different .

It's not just 'sugars' you need to avoid, diabetes is an inability to process glucose properly. Carbohydrate converts, in the body, to glucose. So it makes sense to reduce the amount of carbohydrate that you eat which includes sugars.

The main carbs to avoid or reduce are the complex or starchy carbohydrates such a bread, potatoes, pasta and rice also any flour based products. The starchy carbs all convert 100% to glucose in the body and raise the blood sugar levels significantly.

The way to find out how different foods affect you is to do regular daily testing and keep a food diary for a couple of weeks. If you test just before eating then two hours after eating you will see the effect of certain foods on your blood glucose levels.

Buy yourself a carb counter book (you can get these on-line) and you will be able to work out how much carbs you are eating, when you test, the reading two hours after should be roughly the same as the before eating reading, if it is then that meal was fine, if it isn’t then you need to check what you have eaten and think about reducing the portion size of carbs.

When you are buying products check the total carbohydrate content, this includes the sugar content. Do not just go by the amount of sugar on the packaging as this is misleading to a diabetic.

As for a tester, try asking the nurse/doctor and explain that you want to be proactive in managing your own diabetes and therefore need to test so that you can see just how foods affect your blood sugar levels. Hopefully this will work ! Sometimes they are not keen to give Type 2’s the strips on prescription, (in the UK) but you can but try !!

As a Type 2 the latest 2010 NICE guidelines for Bg levels are as follows:
Fasting (waking).......between 4 - 7 mmol/l.
2 hrs after meals......no more than 8.5 mmol/l.
If you are able to keep the post meal numbers lower, so much the better.

It also helps if you can do 30 minutes moderate exercise a day. It doesn't have to be strenuous.
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Cugila, Thanks for the advice.I must confess i do feel better on days when i have largely protein based food.On the issue of alchohol,i must confess i have not had guiness for a long time ,does it agreee with you and what are the carbs in a pint of the black stuff
 
Guinness, my favourite tipple.....was..... :(

Due to another unrelated condition I have had to stop drinking totally for now. It contains around 18g carbs per pint.

Now my Friday session was two pints and a few small sandwiches. Now I found that I could tolerate that without much if any rise in my Bg levels. There are others on here who have also found this to be the case. I think I converted them...... :D

However, if you want to try it you MUST test before and after......we are all different in how we react to things. I used to drink it in half pints, made it last and kept me in a round. They had 4, I had 2.......simple. Everything in moderation is what I live by now.
 
cugila said:
Now my Friday session was two pints and a few small sandwiches. Now I found that I could tolerate that without much if any rise in my Bg levels. There are others on here who have also found this to be the case. I think I converted them...... :D
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Don't flatter yourself my friend..............................was a convert long before! :D

Nigel
 
OK .So it would seem that i am going to cut my stella down to 3 pints and look at introducing VODKA to my drinks menu. It is true that vodka has no carbs?
 
cugila said:
Nigel........it isn't always about you you know :lol: Dillinger is another........and therte were others.

Ken. :D
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Whatever................................................................................................! :twisted:

Nigel
 
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