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gospatric

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I recently encountered an advert on bill boards and in a newspaper, with the heading....

Diabetes. Beware the silent assassin.
The death certificate will say heart attack. It was really diabetes.


I do not know if this is meant to scAare older type 2's ?
But it scared me!!!I felt it was extreme and very distressing and an unreal exaggeration of the issues.


Does any one else agree ?

Note,please do not post your personal email address on the public board.You really do not want a million spam Emails generated through the internet!

Sugarless Sue.....Moderator.
 
It's pretty pointless. It won't stop anyone developing T1 and probably not T2 and it will scare anyone who is newly diagnosed or having trouble coping.
We should complain to them. I can see they want to raise the visiblity of diabetes, but what a stupid way of doing it!
 
Welcome to the forum.I think ,somewhere,we have a thread on this subject.It is very upsetting to be told these things which is why we here try and help newbies to take control of their diabetes and help lower the risk of these complications.
 
i don't really like the advert either.

I think its very miss leading for type 1 diabetes when it's really talking about undiagnosed type 2. At least that's how i see it.

I think their main aim is to raise awareness of type 2 diabetes to the general public, the problem is they never seem to distiguish between type 1 and type 2.
 
sugarless sue said:
Welcome to the forum.I think ,somewhere,we have a thread on this subject.It is very upsetting to be told these things which is why we here try and help newbies to take control of their diabetes and help lower the risk of these complications.
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DOOMED WE ARE

I phone Careline at DUK & she was not very helpful.
 
Mind you I think that the DUK assumption is if you hit them hard, they will tow the line!

Have anyone ever read there complete guide to diabetes book?

Part from Steven KIng would be impressed with the ability to scare some-one there's a whole chapter in the book that niether I or my husband can get the courage to read!!!!

Every seniro they use is complete doom and gloom for the diabetic it nowkept in the cupboard and referred to as the horror book!

I wonder why I don't take as much notice of the DUK, and do it my own why
 
Perhaps DUK have been reading Bernstein:
Most death certificates of diabetics do not list diabetes as the underlying cause of their heart attacks, strokes, or fatal infections. If it were included, it might be the leading cause of death...... p. 33

Type 2 diabetes is often called the silent killer ..... p. 42
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[I'm here at this time as I have tooth ache & came downstairs for tea & aspirin :( Good night. ]
 
Go to the web site. There are 2 interesting interactive applications to try out - but don't scroll too quickly or you will miss some of the stuff. I don't think its scaremongering, just an ad agency applying the lies, dam lies and statistics approach to an 'awareness' campaign. Somebody, somewhere trying to justify their existence/budget perchance.

Elsewhere there are quotes used in the press type blurb that diabetes kills more people in the UK than prostrate cancer and breast cancer, but the NOS data on line for 2001 - 2006 does not appear to support that view - unless you suppose, without any evidence offered by the providers of national statistics, that diabetes is significantly under- recorded.
 
gospatric said:
I recently encountered an advert on bill boards and in a newspaper, with the heading....

Diabetes. Beware the silent assassin.
The death certificate will say heart attack. It was really diabetes.
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It should say UNCONTROLLED diabetes.

But then probably they want to scare people into sending them money so they can afford their next fundraising campaign

wot, me cynical?
 
It also makes us all look like we're about to keel over.

Rest assured there will be a Daily Mail, Guardian or Observer reader somewhere trying to have us banned from driving, operating anything larger than a tandem bike, and given GPS tags in our arses for our own protection.
 
I saw the advert in this mornings free bus paper. Didn't think much of it though. I also went on to the site and what a waste of time and effort. Asked for info and I'm waiting with baited breath for their reply. If it's as bad as their normal **** it'll just go in the bin. Don't much care for comedies.
 
My 10yr old saw the advert on a gable wall outside Tesco's last week, and his response was "is my Diabetes going to kill me Mummy?" Beggers belief how the campaigners could come up with the slogan without any thought for its affect on Diabetics and their families.
One furious Mama
Suzi x
 
People who use this forum are pretty well informed about their diabetes, so they won't have need of the kind of ad that DUK have used. However, if it makes even one person think about how diabetes might affect them, and make them change their lifestyle to a healthier one then surely it has done some good. There are plenty of type 2 diabetics who have no idea that their lifestyle is slowly killing them. We all know just how bad diabetes education can be from our own GPs.
I explained to my 13 year old son who's a type 1 diabetic about the ad before it was launched so that he would understand why there was a need to make people think. He accepted and understood the reasoning why with no problems.
 
Never rated any of Diabetes Uk campaigns. Always disappointed, but parted with money to join them this week, as a way of getting involved in local support group.
In the latest issue of Balance, there's an article about a 20 year study of type-2s which came to a close in 1997;the results of this study showed that long-term problems;kidney, heart;etc; were lessened by blood-glucose monitoring. Why then is recent advice given for type-2s, not to check so often, and prescriptions for test-strips severely restricted by GPs?? If Diabetes UK want to do any good, especially for it's paying members, perhaps they should be getting involved in a campaign that supports patients having such problems.

Diabetes Uk's recent ad campaigns do nothing but scaremonger and mislead us, and the general public-they need some ass kicked.
I disagree with the dietry advice that Diabetes UK publish for Diabetics on inuslin; inject to eat carbs, inject, more carbs, inject, carbs carbs carbs......oh, and hypos..a recipe for weight gain in my experience. I told my hospital dietition last week that I didn't agree, she looked at me as if I was mad. The proof of the pudding is in the eating,change of insulin, less injecting , low carbing, for me, has led to weight loss and lowering of my HBA1c, and low cholesterol. Surely I must be doing something right? Why do doctors, dietitians and diabetes "experts" not listen to their patients?? All this since changing to animal insulin in May.....I was never offered it in nearly 20 years on insulin....which is why;
I also want to know why newly diagnosed type-1s or type-2s requiring insulin, are not being offered animal insulin as a choice of treatment? There is no scientific research that shows synthetic insulins to be superior to animal insulin, and certainly no research to show that analogue insulins are superior to the many dis-continued NPH and "human" insulins. Have Diabetes UK ever touched on this issue?; their website features a story about a woman's adverse reaction to synthetic insulin.

Sorry I've gone off track, but I feel that Diabetes Uk could do a lot more with their donations, and be of more use to us sufferers. If their ad campaigns help undiagnosed people be diagnosed, surely they should also campaign for better care.
Jus
 
Yes, what a load of sensationalist ******** that teaches nothing yet exracts the maximum funding for those arsholes who are not us but seek to make their fortunes out of us.

The pharma companies that make billions from our condition through charging our NHS for needles, test strips and other things are the biggest offenders in this industry, second are the various people who receive funding on our backs in order to lecture us about our condition without suffering from it.

But these poster placing W####### are the worst ********.

Their add teaches people nothing but in funding and kudos gathers everything for them.

The best diabetes adds were those in the 70's ands maybe 80's. Recall "Always going to the loo,always thirsty, always tired" then suggested diabetes. This was educational and not sensationalist, this gave me the base line to , when I finally consilted my GP 3 days from ketoacidosis coma-advise that I might just be diabetic which prompted her to do the test which revealed ultra high sugars.

I have no respect for the tossers placing these adds, they teach nothing yet gather funds from their sensationalist use of our condition. They are part of the "Diabetes Industry" rhat lectures us but does not involve us-Do I have a point here.

RPNKW
 
Hmm.. OK, no-one likes this advert.. what are the actual stats then? (For type I and type II) ...do we die? If so, of what? What are the actual risks for Type I and Type II (untreated) diabetics? What are the stats for standard treatments? Any better outcomes?

This seems to be a 'hype driven' 'condition' .... the recently adverstised (on this website) statement that 'diabetes' has risen by 74% in a small number of years has to be nonsense - it must be over-diagnosis, it is not logically possible for any actual 'disease' (or symptom which is what so-called 'diabetes' actually is) to increase at this fast a rate in real terms..


:evil:
 
Saw the headlines on someones paper today in the checkout at Tesco. Not word perfect but something like 'why should the NHS pay for fat people?' Obviously a typical reaction in view of the latest news stories about the number of diabetics. Did make me angry
 
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