Diagnosed last week.....

Lord_Lien

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Hi All

Got told last week I was Type 2 & needed to get my blood sugar levels down. Was 20.8 then & I have now currently got it to 13 with some basic diet changes & cutting out booze. I need to get it between 4 - 8, but there seems to be a lot of confusing/miss information out there on what you can & can't eat.

Can anyone point me in the direction of a decent food guide so I can start looking at what I should be eating (replacing snack junk foods, with an alternative for example) & what I should be avoiding period.
 

JTL

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Many of us on here have found the NHS advice to be completely wrong .... that adds to the confusion.
Many of us T2's have gone on to Low carb High Fat diets which have resulted in controlled blood glucose levels loss of weight lower blood pressure lower bad cholesterol higher good cholesterol.
Sounds crazy I know but on this diet you won't have the urge to snack so much.
When reading labels you want to watch out for high carbohydrate content and avoid it ... carbs turn to sugar quickly raise your levels which then collapse and your hungry again.
Bloods go up damage being done .... bloods collapse your hungry and start the carb cycle over again and again and ....
Spuds rice pasta noodles bread are all high carb.
I went cold turkey for a couple of months eating none of the afore mentioned. Eating lots of veg with grilled cheese on tinned fish fresh fish nuts butter full fat plain yoghurt with nuts and berries thrown in lots of butter and cream and then started to slowly reintroduce the carbs back in.
I eat almost normally now but smaller portions of the afore mentioned and it has worked wonders.
I'm now almost none diabetic.
Welcome aboard by the way .... read around and ask lots of questions.
Here was my starting point ....http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf
 
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Lord_Lien

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Thanks for the reply. My old man has had it for years & he eats loads of stuff that is on the "NHS Avoid Eating" sheet, but he is doing about a trillion pills a day. I'm pretty sure his wife is trying to bump him off with the wrong foods to be honest. So I'm not taking what he says as words coming from an "all knowing oracle". Just because you are old, does not make you wise. The internet has evolved to the point where you can get some decent advice. 20 years ago websites about diabetes may have said sugar sandwiches (on white bread) & drinking full fat coke for every meal is the right way to help you fight it.....

I will start off with the website you recommended thank you :)

My only advice to anyone now is don't use your typing/mouse scrolling two fingers to test your blood sugar levels, makes gaming so much harder!
 
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ButtterflyLady

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Welcome. I will tag @daisy1 who can post some newbie info she has.
 
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daisy1

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@Lord_Lien

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask all the questions you have and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

tow

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Hi

I'm 4 weeks in and had similar BG levels. I'm on Metformin and aggressive diet change plus cycling for 3-4 hours a week and same at weekends

I'm now down to between 4-7

Most important thing I found was cut carbs and test 1 and 2 hours after each meal and note what is causing BG levels to spike

For me it's bread and even zero sugar muesli type cereals

So I'm eating a lot of fish, chicken and eggs

Then exercise for me is key. Doesn't have to be mad a fast walk for 30 mins each day will do it for starters
 
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