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Diagnosed two wks ago, really confused

Debbie24020

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Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
I was diagnosed with type 2, 2 wks ago the day I broke up for 2 wks holiday. Given a fact sheet and a prescription for metformin 500mg, told to take 1 a day at breakfast for first wk, then two a day from 2nd week onwards. Felt sick to start with, then pharmacist told me a yoghurt wasn't substantial enough for breakfast, swapped to a couple of slices of toast and seemed a lot better. Once started on the 2 a day felt really bloated and quite sick, seem to have it sussed now, I realise I have to eat a decent amount of food. Just need to try and work a way around my tiredness now. People keep asking me what my readings are, I don't know, haven't been told to take any, don't know how to, or have anything to take them with, I have to take a sample to dr's on Wednesday when I get some more blood tests done, then I have to see the Dr on Friday, he is putting me on statins then. My daughter has a friend who is a diabetic and she has said that I should try and avoid statins at all cost, why? I don't have a clue, I just feel so alone at the minute, don't even know what foods I should be avoiding. Sorry for all the waffle, but I could really do with some advice, guidance before I see my dr on Friday so I know what he is talking about and what route I should be asking to go down.
Thanks
 
Welcome to the forum Debbie :)

Hopefully @daisy1 will be along shortly with some basic information that you should find extremely useful.
 
Warm welcome to the forum @Debbie24020

@daisy1 will be along shortly with a great welcoming support post .
It is easy to read and grasp all will start to make sense gradually .

Give it a read and write a list of questions to ask your GP .
It is easier to remember them this way perhaps ?
 
I was diagnosed with type 2, 2 wks ago the day I broke up for 2 wks holiday. Given a fact sheet and a prescription for metformin 500mg, told to take 1 a day at breakfast for first wk, then two a day from 2nd week onwards. Felt sick to start with, then pharmacist told me a yoghurt wasn't substantial enough for breakfast, swapped to a couple of slices of toast and seemed a lot better. Once started on the 2 a day felt really bloated and quite sick, seem to have it sussed now, I realise I have to eat a decent amount of food. Just need to try and work a way around my tiredness now. People keep asking me what my readings are, I don't know, haven't been told to take any, don't know how to, or have anything to take them with, I have to take a sample to dr's on Wednesday when I get some more blood tests done, then I have to see the Dr on Friday, he is putting me on statins then. My daughter has a friend who is a diabetic and she has said that I should try and avoid statins at all cost, why? I don't have a clue, I just feel so alone at the minute, don't even know what foods I should be avoiding. Sorry for all the waffle, but I could really do with some advice, guidance before I see my dr on Friday so I know what he is talking about and what route I should be asking to go down.
Thanks
Depends on the toast for starters .... some people are OK with eating it (based on type of bread) but a lot are not. Stick around and ask questions. ANYTHING is OK :) You will get answers.

As for statins, for many many people is a flat "no". Search this site for many opinions on it. Lastly, get a meter to test your blood sugars... you will never know what agrees or does not agree with you otherwise.
Good luck
 
I was diagnosed with type 2, 2 wks ago the day I broke up for 2 wks holiday. Given a fact sheet and a prescription for metformin 500mg, told to take 1 a day at breakfast for first wk, then two a day from 2nd week onwards. Felt sick to start with, then pharmacist told me a yoghurt wasn't substantial enough for breakfast, swapped to a couple of slices of toast and seemed a lot better. Once started on the 2 a day felt really bloated and quite sick, seem to have it sussed now, I realise I have to eat a decent amount of food. Just need to try and work a way around my tiredness now. People keep asking me what my readings are, I don't know, haven't been told to take any, don't know how to, or have anything to take them with, I have to take a sample to dr's on Wednesday when I get some more blood tests done, then I have to see the Dr on Friday, he is putting me on statins then. My daughter has a friend who is a diabetic and she has said that I should try and avoid statins at all cost, why? I don't have a clue, I just feel so alone at the minute, don't even know what foods I should be avoiding. Sorry for all the waffle, but I could really do with some advice, guidance before I see my dr on Friday so I know what he is talking about and what route I should be asking to go down.
Thanks

Hi & Welcome you have certainly come to the right place for help & Guidance.

Easy to say but try not to panic everything will eventually fall into place.

Firstly, try and avoid the carbs have a look around this site and the info Daisy gives you and all will get easier.

Secondly, when you see the Doc ask him for your readings, you are allowed a Printout. of what is called your HbA1C and your Cholesterol.
The HbA1c will tell you where you are starting from with regards to the diabetes. It shows what you average Blood Sugar has been for the last 2/3 months. HbA1c48 & above is diabetic. Get those number and come back here and ask what they mean or ask you Doc.

The NHS tend to tell you to eat a balanced diet, but it is the Carbohydrates that you need to reduce, like Bread Pasta Rice Cereal Sugar and lots more even some fruits.

Take it slowly it will a fit together.

Neil:)
 
Thanks all, I think it's slowly starting to make sense, basically I need to cut out carbs. Is there a list anywhere of good/bad fruit and veg, would make life a lot easier, I'm a list sort of person, so if I have a does and don'ts set of rules I think I could work out a plan a lot quicker. I've rejoined my local gym and have booked a follow up session with the trainer I had last year, so hopefully with a bit of hard work I can undo the weight gain from the last 6 months. Defo going to tell Dr that I don't want to go on statins though, as I already struggle with a bad kidney I have no intention of making that worse. Thanks again all, now I'm back off my holiday and pulled my head out of the sand and started reading up on it, it doesn't sound quite as scary as I thought it was.

Ps, Neil - my blood count earlier in the year was 38 when I had a problem with my kidney, 3 weeks ago it was 50, quite a big jump I'm guessing.

Thanks
Debbie
 
it sounds like it's hooked up with the kidney, it may be temporary and resolve when the kidney and drugs are right?
what is the kidney specialist saying?
 
Hi @Debbie24020

HbA1c of 38 is Non Diabetic, 50 is not too bad just a few points past 48. It appears you have been caught early which is a good thing.

If you are overweight then losing weight will help with lowering your BS. You may be able to get the diabetes into remission or reversed by losing weight. There are a few people on here that have managed to do this. www.ncl.ac.uk/magres/research/diabetes/

To get a list of foods you may need to get Trudy Deakins Book, she is an NHS dietitian who has just realised that diabetics have been given the wrong dietary information for many years. There are a lot on here following a Low Carb High Fat diet. http://www.xperthealth.org.uk/low-carb-living you can get the book from here it will tell you every thing you need to know re the food and simply.

You will need to start testing for each meal to see what effects you, I have given a link below of one of the cheapest meters and strips that you would need. The doctors for type 2 are not usually in favour of testing, but you need to know what food or amounts of affects you.

SD codefree meter
www.homehealth-uk.com/medical/blood_glucose_monitor_testing.htm

if you buy extra boxes of strips there is a discount code ..5 packs 264086

Neil
 
@Debbie24020

Hello Debbie and welcome to the forum :)

A lot of good advice so far. To help you further, here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Carry on asking questions and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 140,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi Debbie,

I as diagnosed last year with type 2 and still trying to get my head round it all, like you I wasnst given anything for testing and still don't. I was given a food fact sheet with meal ideas, but the same things get boring and it has lots of bread, pasta and rice, which made me feel awful after a while. I have had some great advice on here these wonderful people know what they are about.
 
Hi there
I was diagnosed a few years ago and It is hard to get your head round but it is also not the end of the world. As a lot of people have suggested do watch the carbs as a general rule eat less than say 40 grams a day. breakfast was always really hard for me before i was diagnosed now it seems even harder but the one thing that seems to work brilliantly and doesn't take up time is the ready mix or microwavable porridge, it really helps smooth the peaks out of glucose production.
Try not to eat huge meals (to the point you feel stuffed) as it is so much harder for your digestion.
There is no such thing as a diabetic diet it is really more about eating what is right for you and your body - Personally i get on better with a more protein rich diet and get my carbs either from oaty or rice things rather than bread and pasta - Has your doctor referred you to the diabetic clinic or unit at your local hospital? if they have then you will probably be offered the free food and nutrition classes. If not then see if there is a local support group - it really helps.
Good luck on your journey and i hope your health stays well
 
Losing weight helps get control of blood sugars.
Getting control of blood sugars helps you to lose weight.
Many of us are on the low carb high far lifestyle/diet.
If it works for you then it's not something temporary or occasional but a complete dietary change for life.
Heres a good ten minute read.
Read all the way to the bottom.
http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf
Worked wonders for me and isn't difficult once you get used to it.
 
Hi. You need to ask the GP for Metformin SR (Slow Release) which is much kinder and should avoid the sickness. As others have said, the statins have nothing to do with diabetes and it's your choice whether to take them. The NHS limits for prescribing these were plucked out of the air and a family history of heart or other circulation problems is probably the only good reason to take them. Don't take extra carbs to avoid the Metformin sickness. The sickness may fade anyway but I'm sure the SR version will resolve it.
 
Hey Debs,

Some first class information above, take your time, read heaps and don't be afraid to ask questions. You'll soon have good control and will be dropping weight, energy levels will rise as the weight comes off and the bloods go down :)
 
@Debbie24020

Hello Debbie and welcome to the forum :)

A lot of good advice so far. To help you further, here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Carry on asking questions and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 140,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

thanks for all this informative information its helped me get to grips with my type 2 diabetes
 
Thank you everybody, I'm now the proud owner of a accu-chek meter. My excemption card also arrived today for me prescriptions, so that will help not having to pay for future prescriptions. The lady in the chemist where I got the meter said that the doctors will give me a prescription for the test strips and lancets, is this right or do I have to continue buying them.
Is it right that I have to inform the dvla and my insurance company that I am now t2 diabetic? A work colleague told me today that I am supposed to check my levels before a car journey just in case anything happens, is this correct?

Sorry for another batch of questions,
Thanks in advance
Debbie
 
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