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Bjorn Toulouse

Bjorn Toulouse

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Well this was a shock. Bit like going to the garage to get an exhaust and being told the big ends gone! Started at 90 now after 6 weeks of tablets, no pizza, no chocolate, no cakes or buns, no white pasta I'm down to 60.

Starving all the time and totally confused what's good for me.

Some say fruit is good but apples and bananas are bad.
After looking at what people are eating in the low carb diet section, bacon, salami, cheese and eggs? For years I have been told they are bad for me.

I have never eaten as many peppers onions and carrots in my life. Like wise fruit.

One thing for sure my poor old bod does not know what's hit it.
 
Low carb is very effective in my experience, and backed up by research. A few people develop issues on a higher fat diet but most of us are fine. Beware of advice to have brown rice/pasta/bread as they have similar carbs to white.

The only fruit I eat now are berries or rhubarb, usually raspberries with full fat plain Greek yogurt. I eat loads of cauliflower and green veg/salad plus other low carb veg such as mushrooms but mainly avoid root veg. I eat eggs, cheese, chicken, fish, and sometimes bacon.
I do have a little chocolate but now it is 85% dark.
I sometimes make cake/desert based on low carb/keto recipes, ie with ground almonds or coconut flour.
I have spag bol sauce without any pasta, and curries with cauliflower rice. I rarely make keto bread except 90 second bread with ground almonds (microwave then split and toast it).
 
Hi @Bjorn Toulouse and welcome to the forum.
OK, so you know that all (digestible) carbs turn into sugar (glucose), so we Type 2 diabetics need to limit the total carbs we eat and also try to only/mainly eat those which have the least impact on our body.
Unfortunately we all process carbs slightly differently, so some can are fin with certain foods and in certain quantities that others just can't handle. For example carrots spike my Blood Glucose too much to have more than a half of one (similarly with apples). But other Type 2's find their BG doesn't react too badly to those 2 foods, but perhaps it reacts badly to legumes (peas and beans).

The way to test which foods suit your own body best is to use a BG meter and use up lots of test strips. Take a BG reading just before eating the food (or meal containing that food) then test again 2hrs after 'first bite'. If the rise in BG is 2.0 mmol or less, then that food/meal was probably OK for your body, but if it is higher than that then you need to at least reduce portion size or possibly cut out that food completely.
For most of us Bananas and other tropical fruit is some of the worst fruit for us - up there with bread, rice, pasta whereas berries are among the best fruit for a Type 2. Apples are in between.

Here is a link to Jo Kalsbeek's 'nutritional thingy':
The Nutritional Thingy. | Diabetes Forum • The Global Diabetes Community
 
Hi and welcome. Like many of us you are finding that the diet/food advice we have been given for years is simply wrong. You can blame the food industry lobby for that as carbs are the most profitable food. I have eggs and bacon for breakfast, Multi-grain bread (but not too much). 85% dark chocolate and so on. 150gm/day of carbs or less is a good target.
 
That's That's very good reduction so far, but as you are finding it, you need to find a way of eating (woe) that is sustainable in your lifestyle for the rest of your life, and hunger has no place in that long term

So as others have said a move to low carb eating (Keto is a stronger version) coupled with increased moment and even some skipping of meals (intermittent fasting) are tools most of us find useful and effective.

By eating meat (including the fattier cuts), fish, eggs, veg that grows above the ground, and adding in some dairy, olives, nuts and berries becomes filling and nutritious with out raising our blood sugars too much.

Continue reading and learning, and adjusting to unlearning old ways and you'll get there.
 
@Bjorn Toulouse what tablets are you on?
Beware some of them are contraindicated if you go too low carb tooo fast as they are prescribed based on current body weight and that can and does drop sharply if you go hard and fast low carb
 
Bjorn Toulouse said:
Well this was a shock. Bit like going to the garage to get an exhaust and being told the big ends gone! Started at 90 now after 6 weeks of tablets, no pizza, no chocolate, no cakes or buns, no white pasta I'm down to 60.

Starving all the time and totally confused what's good for me.

Some say fruit is good but apples and bananas are bad.
After looking at what people are eating in the low carb diet section, bacon, salami, cheese and eggs? For years I have been told they are bad for me.

I have never eaten as many peppers onions and carrots in my life. Like wise fruit.

One thing for sure my poor old bod does not know what's hit it.
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The problem is that we have all been lectured for years about how good and healthy carbohydrates are for us - it is very difficult for a system to admit that its advice is positively unhelpful for diabetics and may indeed be causing or helping to cause the diabetes in the first place.

The "eat carbs" approach was a new one and there is a huge backstory to it, which I won't go into here. That approach hasn't been around all that long. I have seen ration books from the second world war that authorised type 2 diabetics to have increased rations of meats and fats in exchange for no carbohydrates - basically a low carb diet.

For me this means pasta, fruit, bread, rice, sugar, potatoes and other root veg (etc) are no longer part of what I reguarly eat. That approach has worked really well for me.
 
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