Diet Doctor Low Carb Challenge

[Chook]

Sorry to hear that @Chook. If I gained weight as well as struggling with my readings I think I would get really discouraged. I stayed exactly the same this week as you know but I am hoping that cutting lunch will make the difference as it was just too much food for me. I prefer something to nibble on such as M&S cracked black pepper calimari or one of these cheese minis.
I'm feeling a bit better today but still not 100%. Yesterday I had 8g of carbs and yet went to bed on 7.2. This morning I woke up to 6.7 , which I was delighted with, until it made it to 8.2 before breakfast so obviously I still am not right.
On the DIET Doctor website, membership gives you access to loads of presentations and articles on the various topics. There are 20+ meal plans on the planner which was only launched 1 January but I think this will get a lot more useful when they increase the functionality to allow you to build your own weekly meal plans and transfer the shopping list to your online shop.
Like you I still think it is too much food and I know from MFP how many calories I am consuming. Over the past week my carb % was 4%, protein 23% , fats 73%. Most days now my carbs are in single figures which is why I find my BG figures so difficult to take.
I intend to bring the fat down a bit and hope my BG sorts itself out when I am bug free again.

I hope you feel better soon, it's miserable monitoring your BG when you 're poorly because there's nothing you can do to stop it reacting to the bug. I hope you are taking it easy and taking care of yourself.

I think I might join DD next week just to see if there are any other recipes.

I'm not surprised or upset by having gained 2lb - I've never been good at losing weight. It was a rather nice experiment which obviously does work for a lot of people but not for me. I've just remembered, I 'did' Atkins in the 80s - and I lost some on the first induction week but gained it back plus interest on the second and I think the same thing happened with that dreadful Dukan diet about ten years ago.

 

[maglil55]

Weird weird day. Went to visit sister with brother and hubby today. Tested before I left which was post breakfast and I was sitting at 7.4. Didn't get a chance to check again until later and was down to 6.8 but pre dinner I'm back at 7.1, I forgot I'd tested, tested again and it's 7.8 now. Frustrating is not the word for it @Chook. I don't feel too bad - a bit of a sniffle and a niggling sore throat , a few aches but otherwise fine. I've had zero carbs today so far so why why why are they choosing to Rise?
I'm having one of my salads @Chook. I have M&S king prawns that require eating. So lettuce, 3 mini plum tomatoes, small avocado, few bits of pickled courgette and red pepper, couple of walnuts, mini red leicester, and garlic mayo. Looks rather good. Here's hoping this doesn't send the BG through the roof.

 

[maglil55]

Meant to say, sister produced pizza and suppli today (married to an Italian so home made). I declined as I wasn't hungry and waaaay too much carbs. Suppli got me thinking though if there could me a low carb alternative. They are delicious joys of finger food. Risotto rice mixed with panchetta, tomato paste, parmesan and bits of mozzarella. Shaped into fat sausage shapes , dipped in egg, coated in breadcrumbs and fried until golden. The mozzarella melts through them.
I'm thinking I can substitute cauliflower rice with some cream cheese mixed through for the Risotto and the only other issue is the breadcrumbs. I reckon a mix of flaxseed and some ground pork scratchings would do the trick. Other ingredients are fine.
I must be starting to feel better if I am thinking about experimenting again

 

[Brunneria]

Meant to say, sister produced pizza and suppli today (married to an Italian so home made). I declined as I wasn't hungry and waaaay too much carbs. Suppli got me thinking though if there could me a low carb alternative. They are delicious joys of finger food. Risotto rice mixed with panchetta, tomato paste, parmesan and bits of mozzarella. Shaped into fat sausage shapes , dipped in egg, coated in breadcrumbs and fried until golden. The mozzarella melts through them.
I'm thinking I can substitute cauliflower rice with some cream cheese mixed through for the Risotto and the only other issue is the breadcrumbs. I reckon a mix of flaxseed and some ground pork scratchings would do the trick. Other ingredients are fine.
I must be starting to feel better if I am thinking about experimenting again

My goodness, those sound gorgeous
My obsession with food continues. As you can see!

Glad you are feeling up to experimentation. Does that mean you are feeling better?

Visit to relatives back in place - off on Sunday. Which leaves me 4 days of DD meals to choose...

 

[Angelofthemarches]

Meant to say, sister produced pizza and suppli today (married to an Italian so home made). I declined as I wasn't hungry and waaaay too much carbs. Suppli got me thinking though if there could me a low carb alternative. They are delicious joys of finger food. Risotto rice mixed with panchetta, tomato paste, parmesan and bits of mozzarella. Shaped into fat sausage shapes , dipped in egg, coated in breadcrumbs and fried until golden. The mozzarella melts through them.
I'm thinking I can substitute cauliflower rice with some cream cheese mixed through for the Risotto and the only other issue is the breadcrumbs. I reckon a mix of flaxseed and some ground pork scratchings would do the trick. Other ingredients are fine.
I must be starting to feel better if I am thinking about experimenting again

Omg @maglil55, you have just told me how to make low carb 'arancini', my absolute fave Italian snack of all time! They're Sicilian and sometimes Carluccios does them. You can fill the centres with bolognese sauce or ricotta and sage or just a bit of mozzarella. Must try your cauli rice version!!

 

[Angelofthemarches]

Oh, also Carluccios used to do a roasted red pepper sauce to go with them.

 

[maglil55]

My goodness, those sound gorgeous
My obsession with food continues. As you can see!

Glad you are feeling up to experimentation. Does that mean you are feeling better?

Visit to relatives back in place - off on Sunday. Which leaves me 4 days of DD meals to choose...

Oh they are gorgeous but about 17g of carbs in only 1 (and you can't eat only 1). If my alternative works it will take them down to around 3g per portion (I've worked it out roughly but will need to weigh and log everything as this is one of these things where you need to feel it is the right texture). I'll give it a go and see if it works as I have everything I need "in stock" in my kitchen.
Yes thank you, I am improving although still not 100% but a lot better. BG still all over the place but I've decided may as well just accept it is what it is for now. Enjoying my Grandson free days at the moment. It's not totally free but just short times of 30 mins to 1 hr but I'm not having to get up at the crack of dawn every day.

 

[maglil55]

Omg @maglil55, you have just told me how to make low carb 'arancini', my absolute fave Italian snack of all time! They're Sicilian and sometimes Carluccios does them. You can fill the centres with bolognese sauce or ricotta and sage or just a bit of mozzarella. Must try your cauli rice version!!

Yep - loads of different versions. I taught my son how to make them and he does a pretty good job now. My problem was how to get the creamy rice texture but I reckon mixing some Philly with the cauliflower rice could do the trick. Flaxseed worked well with my Aubergine 'chips' which is why I reckon a mix will work with the suppli. Just like the normal beasties these are going to require refrigeration and double dipping to get them coated and sealed properly. It's a messy process so if I get this right I'll be bulk making and freezing. Let me know how you get on.

 

[rfmiles]

Loving this thread!
I recently had the Dietdoc pesto chicken thing, and nearly died of pleasure.
Want to try the burger sauce now. We have naked burgers quite often and I would like to tart them up a bit, in a saintly way.

Do they do proper shopping lists, if you pay a subscription? or have you made your own lists?

By the way, calories are meaningless to my body. Seriously. I can eat 3 meals a day VeryLowCarb, and not gain weight eating nearly 3000 cals a day, or I can eat 1200 calories including carbs, and gain weight - and I can't be the only one.

I've read that if you want to GAIN weight, the best way to do it is to eat carbs and fats at the same time. So does that 1200 calorie diet include both?

 

[Brunneria]

I've read that if you want to GAIN weight, the best way to do it is to eat carbs and fats at the same time. So does that 1200 calorie diet include both?

Yes, because that is the variable. Although, of course, on a 1200 cal/day way of eating, both fats and carbs are limited. I am v carb sensitive. Unfortunately.

 

[Chook]

Good morning everyone

That's my first day of fasting over and I was fine right up until Mr C texted to say he was delayed at work and would be an hour late. I got a massive wave of hunger as soon as it sunk in I was going to have to wait another hour. So I had a big glass of very cold water and waited out that hunger wave and, like Jason Fung says, it did go away - so much so that when I did eventually eat my dinner I wasn't really hungry.

FBG was 5.5 this morning so, being in an experimenting mood, I had an avocado for breakfast (straight out of the fridge and weirdly like ice cream).

 

[filly]

Brilliant! I'm planning on dry Prosecco, its supposed to be very low carb or gin 'n' tonic (diet lime tonic).

Don't know whats going on with my BG today. FBG was 6.3 then breakfast of 2 scrambled eggs with butter and a small amount of gravadlax - then 2 hours after breakfast it was up to 8.3! Definitely has ti be DP but I'd have thought the breakfast would have stopped it.

Just joined and noticed that you wondered why your BS was raised after eating Gravadlax. If I am not mistaken that is salmon with a garnish, this does have sugar in, I am pretty sure. It is interesting that some smoked salmon has sugar added. The cheaper smoked salmon seems to be sugar free. Hope this is of some help. I have been following diet doctor for 26 weeks.

 

[filly]

oh dear. I hope not. DN put me on statins in September and I have been a naughty girl so I got a lecture and had to promise to start taking them. She did relent so I can take half the dose on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays. So less than a quarter of the original prescription. Call me ungrateful but I am still not happy because my mum has been taking statins and as a result I believe the claim they cause dementia. I will take half on Friday after giving everyone strict instructions to watch out for my marbles. I do not have enough of them to risk losing any. My risk of heart and stroke is only 15% if I were not diabetic so I was hoping to avoid statins altogether. This is why the quantities of diary in this diet scare me.

Greens no problem although the spinach has curled up and sulked. It will be chard, chard, nero kale, green curled and chard. I suppose I could try to eat red russian kale....sigh. Two more pickings of Brussels but the purple sprouting has started cropping. I even have cherry tomatoes in the freezer. Note to self to grow a lot more beans this year.

You don't have to take Statins. You do have a choice. Read everything you can and if you feel happy not to take them then speak up. After speaking to my GP, I get joint and muscle pain without Statins so there was no way I was going to take them. He agreed and didn't force me. Don't let the fear of what might happen cloud what you truly want.

 

[Brunneria]

Just joined and noticed that you wondered why your BS was raised after eating Gravadlax. If I am not mistaken that is salmon with a garnish, this does have sugar in, I am pretty sure. It is interesting that some smoked salmon has sugar added. The cheaper smoked salmon seems to be sugar free. Hope this is of some help. I have been following diet doctor for 26 weeks.

That's brilliant! Welcome.
How do you find it, 26 weeks in? Are you using the menus, eating plans and shopping lists? And (as a 26 week veteran) what advice have you got?

 

[maglil55]

@Chook hopefully that's you joining @Brunneria in the FBG stakes. I'm not getting too excited but I went off to bed on 6.4 and got up to 7.3 which is better than its been. Let's face it it's a lot better than its been. So fingers crossed.

 

[maglil55]

And pre breakfast I was 6.7. Please Please let this finally be it falling in line

 

[filly]

That's brilliant! Welcome.
How do you find it, 26 weeks in? Are you using the menus, eating plans and shopping lists? And (as a 26 week veteran) what advice have you got?

I make my own meals and skip breakfast. Works a treat and I am still losing weight.
I would say, find out what works for you. If I want to lose and keep losing I need to skip the berries and the Greek Yogurt.
Also watch butter and cream cheese. Better on coconut oil and hard cheese. That is just my experience.
I am not brill at IF and can just manage 16/8 at a push. All the posts about Cabbage made me laugh. I have cabbage later...lol

 

[Chook]

@maglil55 - it's been an interesting BG morning:
FBG: 5.5
Avocado (which is about 3.5g of carbs)
1 hour later: 6.1
2 hours later: 5.5
Lunch time: 5.1
Avocado
1 hour later: 5.1

Now, is it yesterday's fast or today's avocadoes that have given me the lower BGs? The FBG has to be down to yesterday's fast.

 

[Chook]

@maglil55 - it's been an interesting BG morning:
FBG: 5.5
Avocado (which is about 3.5g of carbs)
1 hour later: 6.1
2 hours later: 5.5
Lunch time: 5.1
Avocado
1 hour later: 5.1

Now, is it yesterday's fast or today's avocadoes that have given me the lower BGs? The FBG has to be down to yesterday's fast.

And.... 2 hrs later down to 4.9!!

I'm looking forward to seeing what it's like in the morning.

@filly - welcome to the forum and this thread.

@Brunneria - how is your BG behaving with your cake 'n' cream lunches? I was telling Mr C about it and he looked horrified - I thought it was about you eating cake for lunch every day but, no, he was just worried I might follow suit and eat the cake I made for him.


@maglil55 - how are you feeling today? Any better?? You never know, once you get rid of your bugs and your stress levels drop your BG might fall in line. Fingers crossed for you.

I'm just baking the rolls to go with the DD Sloppy Joes - it says bake for 50-60 mins and when tapped on the bottom they will sound hollow if done. They've been in the oven for 75 mins so far and sound far from hollow.

 

[maglil55]

@maglil55 - it's been an interesting BG morning:
FBG: 5.5
Avocado (which is about 3.5g of carbs)
1 hour later: 6.1
2 hours later: 5.5
Lunch time: 5.1
Avocado
1 hour later: 5.1

Now, is it yesterday's fast or today's avocadoes that have given me the lower BGs? The FBG has to be down to yesterday's fast.

You know you are going to have to repeat it being avocado free to find out but personally I'd put money on the avocado purely because my system reacts better to being fed something.
I'm feeling better. Went to local Tesco to get more salad and glory be aubergines are back! Probably stayed a bit longer than was wise as I started to feel quite weak so headed home to relax again.
Great great figures - you have to be thrilled and @Brunneria. Right now I'm off to make Oopsie bread with sufficient to have their BLT tomorrow. Going to have a go at Suppli as well although I don't think I will be able to cook them today. They have to be well chilled before frying. If these work I will be in heaven (as will @Angelofthemarches ) Keto Suppli and Pizza - yum!