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Did the DD naans - not very naan like and took ages to cook each one. More like a coconut crispy pancake. Went down ok with the chicken and some cauli rice though :-)
 
Ultramum said:
Did the DD naans - not very naan like and took ages to cook each one. More like a coconut crispy pancake. Went down ok with the chicken and some cauli rice though :)
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I thought mine turned out looking a bit sad but tasted okay - a bit like a peshwari naan.

Hmm you've just given me an idea for tomorrow.
 
Still high in the morning but improved from last few days. 8.6 pre breakfast which is better than 9.5 - 9.8. Just scared the whatnot out of myself with a 12.8 then it dawned on me I hadn't washed my hands and my fingers were covered with pear juice , xylitol, cinnamon and cloves. Yes - washing hands does make a difference. 7.2 was more than a bit better. Anyway busy making combined meal for me and the carb eaters in my family. A few to feed today. A friend is over from Australia, son, DIL and both grandsons coming too and brother as usual. Hubby and myself complete the group. Hubby has made a huge pot of lentil soup (boys love Papa's soup) I also have spiced chicken wings ready to air fry with a sour cream dip. Rick Stein's recipe for beef stroganoff next (best version I've tasted) served with straw chips for the carb eaters and I have cauliflower rice and aubergine chips. The sweetness on my fingers was caused by the pears I have poaching which will be served with extra thick cream and a low carb chocolate sponge. I may have to fast a bit tomorrow but I really just have to avoid the bread.
 
Your Sunday meals always sound so lovely. :)

Yes, I've made that mistake with not testing with clean fingers before - although recently it's been the other way around like yesterday when (due to brand new teatowels not being particularly absorbent) I'd not dried my hands properly and the test came out at 2.3 on the retake (after drying hands on paper towel) it was 5.2.

I had a strange thing happen yesterday. We had a late cooked breakfast then went shopping. About three and a half hours after breakfast I was just paying for my shopping when I got a monumental pain in what I think is the top on my stomach (about three inches down from the centre of bra band). It felt like a solid something about fist size was pushing hard. I had to sit down until it faded but I can still feel where the pain was today. Anyone got any ideas? It wasn't indigestion or heartburn.
 
First week of DD and I need to brag. BGs have come down from over 10 each time to nothing above 7. I'm not hungry, have lost half a stone and haven't had any carb flu! All this and I have had the week from hell with late meetings, a 3 hr each way trip this weekend and a bereavement. I can't tell you how much I wanted fish and chips from the chippy and some chocolate this weekend, what with all the sadness but I haven't caved in.
 
Oh dear. I love that advert, for many reasons, but mainly cos I know it is a very silly work of fiction.
the reality... no thanks!
 
Well done @purplepenguin - please brag to your heart's content! I love hearing how well people are doing.
Are you eating all three meals?
Enjoying the food?
Enjoying the cooking?
Enjoying the cabbage?

I have just heard the oven ping. It has a HUGE multi-portion casserole dish of the feta/pesto/olive/chicken in it.
Am waiting to do the veg until Mr B walks in through the door. I have learned not to anticipate, because his shifts often go pear-shaped.

Tomorrow will be Aubergine Pizza Puree, although it may be courgette not aubergine, since only 1 available, and I wanted 3.
 
Brunneria said:
Well done @purplepenguin - please brag to your heart's content! I love hearing how well people are doing.
Are you eating all three meals?
Enjoying the food?
Enjoying the cooking?
Enjoying the cabbage?

I have just heard the oven ping. It has a HUGE multi-portion casserole dish of the feta/pesto/olive/chicken in it.
Am waiting to do the veg until Mr B walks in through the door. I have learned not to anticipate, because his shifts often go pear-shaped.

Tomorrow will be Aubergine Pizza Puree, although it may be courgette not aubergine, since only 1 available, and I wanted 3.
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Hi Brunneria
I eat breakfast, which is a new thing for me and it keeps me full all day. I eat at lunch if I'm hungry but I am not often hungry until dinner time. To be honest, with all the upheaval of illness then bereavement, I haven't much felt like eating anyway but I have because I know my sugars could go funny.
I love cooking anyway so it has been great learning some new recipes. I love the burgers!
Cabbage is fine to a point, but I just cannot get used to the cauliflower. Cauli rice is ok but I can't stomach it otherwise.
 
Chook said:
Your Sunday meals always sound so lovely. :)

Yes, I've made that mistake with not testing with clean fingers before - although recently it's been the other way around like yesterday when (due to brand new teatowels not being particularly absorbent) I'd not dried my hands properly and the test came out at 2.3 on the retake (after drying hands on paper towel) it was 5.2.

I had a strange thing happen yesterday. We had a late cooked breakfast then went shopping. About three and a half hours after breakfast I was just paying for my shopping when I got a monumental pain in what I think is the top on my stomach (about three inches down from the centre of bra band). It felt like a solid something about fist size was pushing hard. I had to sit down until it faded but I can still feel where the pain was today. Anyone got any ideas? It wasn't indigestion or heartburn.
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No ideas for what it may be but hope you are feeling better and that it was a one-off
 
Chook said:
Your Sunday meals always sound so lovely. :)

Yes, I've made that mistake with not testing with clean fingers before - although recently it's been the other way around like yesterday when (due to brand new teatowels not being particularly absorbent) I'd not dried my hands properly and the test came out at 2.3 on the retake (after drying hands on paper towel) it was 5.2.

I had a strange thing happen yesterday. We had a late cooked breakfast then went shopping. About three and a half hours after breakfast I was just paying for my shopping when I got a monumental pain in what I think is the top on my stomach (about three inches down from the centre of bra band). It felt like a solid something about fist size was pushing hard. I had to sit down until it faded but I can still feel where the pain was today. Anyone got any ideas? It wasn't indigestion or heartburn.
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Gall bladder and inflammation of the pancreas cause pain in that area. So long as it goes away it is just a case of staying hydrated. If it persists you have to visit the doc. I have gallstones and that sometimes causes pain in that area bùt usually if I've indulged in something I shouldn't have. Is it still sore or just tender now? I get bloated with it but it does pass.
No one knew they were eating low carb chocolate cake with the poached pears tonight. Not many leftovers tonight!
 
I love the idea of chocolate cake with pears. I used to love pears but they really spike me now. :(

Thanks for the replies - the weird pain has gone, thank goodness. I hope it wasn't anything nasty brewing up but I've never had a pain in that particular area before.

It would take a lot more than a bit of pain to make me visit my doc at the moment. They have been put back in to 'special measures' by CQC and both the senior doctor and the nurse practitioner made an appearance on the local news a week or so ago explaining about it (sadly I missed the interviews). They've lost yet another doctor - so down from six doctors to two in the space of a couple of years. I don't think anyone wants to work there. Sadly the other local practice is full so we can't even change doctors.
 
Chook said:
I love the idea of chocolate cake with pears. I used to love pears but they really spike me now. :(

Thanks for the replies - the weird pain has gone, thank goodness. I hope it wasn't anything nasty brewing up but I've never had a pain in that particular area before.

It would take a lot more than a bit of pain to make me visit my doc at the moment. They have been put back in to 'special measures' by CQC and both the senior doctor and the nurse practitioner made an appearance on the local news a week or so ago explaining about it (sadly I missed the interviews). They've lost yet another doctor - so down from six doctors to two in the space of a couple of years. I don't think anyone wants to work there. Sadly the other local practice is full so we can't even change doctors.
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Glad the pain has gone. I can't take a whole pear but can manage a piece. No weight loss this week. I seem to have fallen into a pattern of stay the same , lose 1 lb but I'm happy with that. The friend from Australia , I haven't seen since August and the first thing she said was "Gee you've lost a load of weight". I suppose it's true since I'm edging closer to 2st gone since I last saw her. As I've said before you just don't notice it yourself.
Had a word with the nurse last week when I had No 1 in the surgery about his ear. I was talking to her about these morning highs and she said just to stick with it as I know it takes time to work bugs out of my system. Thankfully no suggestion about upping meds but she also said to try not to stress as that won't help. How true as I was stressing this morning as No 2 was acting up making us rush so I was in a right flap by the time I got No 1 to school - result 9.4 pre breakfast again. Ah well, breathe and stick with it. It seems this bug has been a real nasty and loads of people have been affected by this bug coming and going in cycles and it lasts a long long time.
I noticed the thread on tiramisu. I have a recipe for it - will type it out and post it. It was one of the easier desserts to low carb but calories.....very high but it tastes like normal tiramisu.
Won't be eating much today - 2 really good meals in 1 week is more than enough!
 
I have lost any weight this week - but I also haven't gained any. This is after having fasted for four days last week. It really isn't making any sense at all. Maybe I need to cut back on my non-fasting days (all three of them!)

Once again I'm only eating low carb dinners on Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Friday of this week. The other three days I'll have low carb breakfasts and dinners. This seems to be a quite easy pattern for me to follow. I just wish I'd lose a bit of weight. I know that my personal fat threshold is about 2st 4lbs less than I am now but I don't want to starve myself to get there.
 
Chook said:
I have lost any weight this week - but I also haven't gained any. This is after having fasted for four days last week. It really isn't making any sense at all. Maybe I need to cut back on my non-fasting days (all three of them!)

Once again I'm only eating low carb dinners on Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Friday of this week. The other three days I'll have low carb breakfasts and dinners. This seems to be a quite easy pattern for me to follow. I just wish I'd lose a bit of weight. I know that my personal fat threshold is about 2st 4lbs less than I am now but I don't want to starve myself to get there.
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This is what happened to me with intermittent fasting. No weight loss, although a fair bit of weight fluctuation.

Oh, i am sure i could have achieved it - longer, harder fasts. 72 hours. 7 days. Even longer...
But i have a personal limit on the extremes to which i choose to go, and those are outside my limits (for several good reasons).

I would prefer to eat DD indefinitely and keep a stable weight! :D
Nowadays i just eat twice a day and consider that the most comfortable option for MY body.
 
I do agree with you @Brunneria the problem was I gained weight on DD. :(

This is what happened to me last year (when I had my forum holiday). It started off when I didn't lose any weight after the first two weeks on the Blood Sugar Diet, even though I was doing it VLC then, when I stopped cutting so hard back on calories, I started to put weight on even though I was always under 40g carbs a day. Over 9 months (after the incident at work) I just steadily put on weight - 35 lbs - definitely not helped by being unable to take any exercise at all. I didn't overeat - I just ate to my meter. I didn't realise how active I was until I couldn't do it any more.

I know VLC / keto is best for my BG and fasting is at least keeping my weight more or less stable. I'm not really sure where to go from here though. I don't want to be skinny but I would like to get slightly lower than my PFT.
 
Chook said:
I do agree with you @Brunneria the problem was I gained weight on DD. :(

This is what happened to me last year (when I had my forum holiday). It started off when I didn't lose any weight after the first two weeks on the Blood Sugar Diet, even though I was doing it VLC then, when I stopped cutting so hard back on calories, I started to put weight on even though I was always under 40g carbs a day. Over 9 months (after the incident at work) I just steadily put on weight - 35 lbs - definitely not helped by being unable to take any exercise at all. I didn't overeat - I just ate to my meter. I didn't realise how active I was until I couldn't do it any more.

I know VLC / keto is best for my BG and fasting is at least keeping my weight more or less stable. I'm not really sure where to go from here though. I don't want to be skinny but I would like to get slightly lower than my PFT.
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I can certainlý relate to putting on weight after an accident. After they operated on my spine it was a good 18 months I couldn't exercise and I was largely immobile a lot of the time. I gained about 60 lbs and I wasn't diabetic for 12 of those months which left me free to eat rubbish. Wish I'd known then what I know know. It's a long hard journey to take it off again. Hope I can get back to happy mode soon!
 
I've started logging my food in to MyFitnessPal. I did the last 7 days and was surprised that the average is coming out to 1300 +/- 100 calories per day. To start with I'm going to bring it down to 1200 by eating less protein, keep VLC the same and increase fat percentage - and I'm going to have a good breakfast and dinner.

Having said all that I really think the problem has to be lack of exercise. Not sure what I can do about that as walking is out of the question (arthritis) and so is swimming (psoriasis). Whatever they put in the water stings like the devil.

@Brunneria
It was interesting reading the thread about PCOS that you contributed to because that was the reason I had a hysterectomy at age 41. I had no idea there was any relationship between PCOS and Type 2. I had PCOS first diagnosed at age 25 although I might have had it earlier and apparently it became quite serious with something called chocolate cysts, hence the hysterectomy. I had been hospitalised twice with cysts bursting. It makes me wonder just when my T2 started - could it have been way back then?
 
Chook said:
I've started logging my food in to MyFitnessPal. I did the last 7 days and was surprised that the average is coming out to 1300 +/- 100 calories per day. To start with I'm going to bring it down to 1200 by eating less protein, keep VLC the same and increase fat percentage - and I'm going to have a good breakfast and dinner.

Having said all that I really think the problem has to be lack of exercise. Not sure what I can do about that as walking is out of the question (arthritis) and so is swimming (psoriasis). Whatever they put in the water stings like the devil.

@Brunneria
It was interesting reading the thread about PCOS that you contributed to because that was the reason I had a hysterectomy at age 41. I had no idea there was any relationship between PCOS and Type 2. I had PCOS first diagnosed at age 25 although I might have had it earlier and apparently it became quite serious with something called chocolate cysts, hence the hysterectomy. I had been hospitalised twice with cysts bursting. It makes me wonder just when my T2 started - could it have been way back then?
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I think the insulin resistance comes with the hormone mess of PCOS, which then over time causes weight gain, increased insulin resistance, and so on, until we tip over into T2. I always quote the 'soundbite' that 50% of PCOSers are T2 by the age of 50. And then more and more as time passes.

I wasn't diagnosed PCOS til my 30s, but i had all the symptoms from mid teens. It took a female doctor to join the dots.
(I also have a prolactinoma, which is a benign tumour on the pituitry gland, which messes my hormones even more)

Understanding this has helped me accept my weight, and the astronomically small odds of me ever weighing just 140 pounds ever again. :)
All those years of banging my head against a brick wall - the wasted years, ;)
I'm currently 5 stone (70 pounds) less than at my heaviest.
That is good. No, it is AWESOME! And i have kept it off for years. And sometimes i lose a pound or two more.

But I refuse to keep beating myself up for not torturing myself to a point where i might get a bit lower.

Sorry if i sound a bit militant, but ever since the Newcastle Diet, the forum has become hugely preoccupied with weight loss. Intermittent Fasting has made it worse. These things are good for those who can lose, but for those of us with extra challenges, it just puts additional implications of failure onto us. And so often we beat ourselves up over it.

I really feel that blood glucose and insulin resistance reduction should always be our priority.
Personal fat thresholds change over time, with age, with health, and for a fair number of us, our T2 has nothing to do with personal fat thresholds.

Weight loss? Pffft!!! That is just the sugar free butter cream icing on top of the fabulous cake that is blood glucose control ;) and we don't all always get the icing.
 
OK That was officially a scream! I had dropped to 6.5 immediately before dinner and now 2 hours later I'm 8.7 ??? There was 9g of carbs in dinner ; 11g all day and if you knock off the fibre a mere 5g of carbs. How is this possible? Is 9g of carbs too much in the evening meal. I am totally bewildered '
 
....and that was a slightly smaller scream (but not much). Went to bed still on 8.7 and FBG 8.4 so at least it came down I thought.
Did the school run around and pre breakfast is 10.9. OK be positive. Not as bad as yesterday but still not good. It did come down to 6.5 yesterday so hopefully it will come down quicker today. I am really beginning to despair and am still trying to work out how a prawn salad increased me from 6.5 to 8.7 anyway.
 
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