Type 2 Diet?

TP2125

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What he may not know is that if the metformin does not work because he is eating to many carbs the doctor will have no alternative but to put him on other medications that by law he will have to declare to dvlc and his vehicle insurance. Then he will have to test before every single journey and if his blood sugar is not within range he will not be allowed behind the wheel until it is. this will cause a lot of difficulty I imagine. Then there is retinopathy, although this can usually be alleviated with lazer surgery certain lazer surgeries lead to permanent loss of your driving license due to being left with tunnel vision. food for thought, pun intended.

Wow I didn't realise this. Thank you, I'll mention this to him and see if that helps to motivate himself.
 

Phoenix55

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If you have dropped his bread intake by 50% and he eats the special K bars he has made huge concessions for you already. It seems to be part of the 'man culture' that the bigger the doorstep... What isn't in the cupboards he can't eat after hours but what he stops to buy on the way to different jobs you have no control over. He has to decide to change for himself and until that time you have to step back. If both you and your daughter go low carb as part of a health check through Lent it may help and you will understand a little of what you are asking him to do. If he enjoys the occasional game of footie explain that it will become more difficult for him as his feet go numb. Express your concerns once, then support him in whatever he decides, it is part of the deal you both agreed. It is sad but some people will not decide to change until it is too late but he will need be able to talk to you when and if he does decide to change his ways.
 

Resurgam

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I don't eat any of the foods your husband is eating - They are all high carb, which makes you fat and hungry. I eat meat, complete with the natural fat it comes with. I eat bacon and eggs, chicken thighs, sausages, and the weight drops off. My blood glucose is normal as long as I don't go mad on the grapes, and I feel great, full of energy and there is always something to eat if I feel hungry. I do eat the Lidl protein rolls as they don't seem to cause a spike or halt weight loss. I think that the diabetes does make it more difficult to lose weight in a controlled way, as there are a lot more things going on, certainly for me after two months of eating low carb, and having your husband out of the house for so long each day must make it problematic, unless he likes cold chicken or sausages - the ones I get from our butcher are nice cold - but boiled eggs are good, cheese too - and celery, whole tomatoes, even pickled onions in a sealed plastic bag or small jar travel well enough. The foods usually labelled healthy are not the ones for a diabetic to eat - nor most people if they want to be thin. The more the guidelines are followed the sicker and fatter people become.
 

douglas99

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I don't eat any of the foods your husband is eating - They are all high carb, which makes you fat and hungry. I eat meat, complete with the natural fat it comes with. I eat bacon and eggs, chicken thighs, sausages, and the weight drops off. My blood glucose is normal as long as I don't go mad on the grapes, and I feel great, full of energy and there is always something to eat if I feel hungry. I do eat the Lidl protein rolls as they don't seem to cause a spike or halt weight loss. I think that the diabetes does make it more difficult to lose weight in a controlled way, as there are a lot more things going on, certainly for me after two months of eating low carb, and having your husband out of the house for so long each day must make it problematic, unless he likes cold chicken or sausages - the ones I get from our butcher are nice cold - but boiled eggs are good, cheese too - and celery, whole tomatoes, even pickled onions in a sealed plastic bag or small jar travel well enough. The foods usually labelled healthy are not the ones for a diabetic to eat - nor most people if they want to be thin. The more the guidelines are followed the sicker and fatter people become.

I hate to disagree but none of those will look good after sitting from 6am to 1pm in my car's glove locker in summer. Even by 10am on a sunny day some of those would be looking sad.
You need to be looking at getting up to pack him a coolbag with an ice block in the bottom before he goes out in the morning.
 

Daibell

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What he may not know is that if the metformin does not work because he is eating to many carbs the doctor will have no alternative but to put him on other medications that by law he will have to declare to dvlc and his vehicle insurance. Then he will have to test before every single journey and if his blood sugar is not within range he will not be allowed behind the wheel until it is. this will cause a lot of difficulty I imagine. Then there is retinopathy, although this can usually be alleviated with lazer surgery certain lazer surgeries lead to permanent loss of your driving license due to being left with tunnel vision. food for thought, pun intended.
You only need to test whilst driving if on insulin. When on Gliclazide which is the tablet used when you have low natural insulin, you don't need to report it even though high doses can cause your blood sugar to go low.
 

Chook

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Nasty and harsh, show him pictures of diabetic feet. Ask him if he wants to work healthy, because he can lose his eyesight. If he really can't be a***d to do anything there isn't really a lot you can do about it. But please don't nag him.
As the others have said change his food slowly.
I'm with @dawnmc on this - the shock of seeing what might happen really worked for me. I'd also combine it with clearing carby foods from your house and let him have as much as he wants to eat of full fat and very low or carb free foods - they are so filling that after a short while he will find he just can't eat the volume that he used to when he were eating high carb foods.

One thing that has helped me is my non-D husband also changing to low carb with medium fat which he says he did because my food always looked more interesting than his - so, perhaps, your husband might not feel so negative about the change in food if everyone in the house has the same as him (at least until he's used to it.)
 

Resurgam

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I hate to disagree but none of those will look good after sitting from 6am to 1pm in my car's glove locker in summer. Even by 10am on a sunny day some of those would be looking sad.
You need to be looking at getting up to pack him a coolbag with an ice block in the bottom before he goes out in the morning.
The man has his own van - installing a small fridge would not be a problem - at least it isn't for me. Actually when I hire a van and rig it up to go camping I create a rudimentary kitchen and have two burners so I can cook and make tea at the same time - but there's no need when the man is only away 12 hours or so.
 

douglas99

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The man has his own van - installing a small fridge would not be a problem - at least it isn't for me. Actually when I hire a van and rig it up to go camping I create a rudimentary kitchen and have two burners so I can cook and make tea at the same time - but there's no need when the man is only away 12 hours or so.

Yes, he could.
But it'll flatten the battery after a few hours standing parked, unless you run it off gas, or run out a hook up, or buy a £400 compressor fridge.
Not seeming as easy as buying a sandwich from Tecso Express when you're on site now is it though?
 

TP2125

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I don't eat any of the foods your husband is eating - They are all high carb, which makes you fat and hungry. I eat meat, complete with the natural fat it comes with. I eat bacon and eggs, chicken thighs, sausages, and the weight drops off. My blood glucose is normal as long as I don't go mad on the grapes, and I feel great, full of energy and there is always something to eat if I feel hungry. I do eat the Lidl protein rolls as they don't seem to cause a spike or halt weight loss. I think that the diabetes does make it more difficult to lose weight in a controlled way, as there are a lot more things going on, certainly for me after two months of eating low carb, and having your husband out of the house for so long each day must make it problematic, unless he likes cold chicken or sausages - the ones I get from our butcher are nice cold - but boiled eggs are good, cheese too - and celery, whole tomatoes, even pickled onions in a sealed plastic bag or small jar travel well enough. The foods usually labelled healthy are not the ones for a diabetic to eat - nor most people if they want to be thin. The more the guidelines are followed the sicker and fatter people become.

Yes what you list sounds lovely, it's like a picnic. He loves all cold cooked meats and most salad items (but not celery). We'll try this for a few days and see how it goes (I think small steps might be the way to go)
 

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@TP2125 Your Hubby needs to buy into this, as it, It becomes his idea. I am a slow to learn male of the species, but once I had 'got it' I became quite obsessive. Yes a meter will show him in black and white what the impact of the food he ate earlier has on his blood sugar levels.
 

Resurgam

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Yes, he could.
But it'll flatten the battery after a few hours standing parked, unless you run it off gas, or run out a hook up, or buy a £400 compressor fridge.
Not seeming as easy as buying a sandwich from Tecso Express when you're on site now is it though?
I've been going off to Sidmouth for the folk festival for donkey's years - and it has never been a problem for me - I drive down into town each morning, drive back up to the camp site in the evening and it charges the battery enough to keep things going, and of course I turn off the fridge when it is not required, plus I don't use the internal lights but take a torch and battery lamp. I am often met with envious looks when I am setting out my table as the smell of breakfast or dinner wafts enticingly from the van.
 

Tabbyjoolz

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Careful shopping in most Express supermarkets can result in a tasty, low-carb meal. The more difficult thing would be turning a blind eye to all the crisps, sweets and biscuits on the way to the checkout
 

douglas99

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I've been going off to Sidmouth for the folk festival for donkey's years - and it has never been a problem for me - I drive down into town each morning, drive back up to the camp site in the evening and it charges the battery enough to keep things going, and of course I turn off the fridge when it is not required, plus I don't use the internal lights but take a torch and battery lamp. I am often met with envious looks when I am setting out my table as the smell of breakfast or dinner wafts enticingly from the van.

I'd just take my motorhome with the 3 way fridge, which I switch to gas when parked, as it flattens the spare battery way to fast if I use it all day to keep food cold. And the op's husband is going to be parked, working, not driving into town every day.
As you say though, if you turn it off, it doesn't use power, but it also doesn't get cold.
(As to food, I find most people get a bacon butty from the food van, then burger and chips and a beer at lunch if they don't fancy cooking to be honest)

A coolbag with an iceblock in each day would be a lot simpler.
 

dawnmc

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Does he like scotch eggs? You can make them with low carb sausage, tesco finest are only 1. something each, bake them in the oven. Egg muffins, Google the recipe are great to keep in the fridge for breakfast. I make mine with cut up bacon in them. Lidls high fat yogurt in a Tupperware with raspberries is nice too.
Lots of helpful suggestions from folk, it does seem daunting but give it 2 weeks and he will be used to the food, esp if he likes steak with garlic butter.
 

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You only need to test whilst driving if on insulin. When on Gliclazide which is the tablet used when you have low natural insulin, you don't need to report it even though high doses can cause your blood sugar to go low.

I had my worst hypo while taking Gliclazide and although I didn't need help from anyone, I was clearly not fit to drive so I didn't. Now no longer on Gliclazide (low carb), something happened yesterday while having my HbOT, my BG dropped to 3 although I felt no symptoms at all, technically that was a hypo. That was the Libre reading and checking it every day against my AccuCheck Mobile, it's a very varied set of results, but I'm assuming the Libre was a bit out. Coming off oxygen and coming out of the chamber lets my BG climb.